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Next ODM leader after Raila
Ebenyo
#61 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 5:53:45 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!



Raila is still strong for atleast another 10 years.He will lead ODM without being on the ballot and play a key role of kingmaker.There are a group of leaders within ODM: 1.Josphat Nanok 2.Hassan Joho 3.James Ongwae 4.Wycliff Oparanya.Raila will do well to groom them into a strong cohesive unit that will take over from him when he finally steps back and let them lead.This will take time and wont be done in a hurry.As of now,there is no vacancy in ODM leadership.Raila is the party leader while 001 and Oparanya are his deputies.
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#62 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 7:45:53 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!



Raila is still strong for atleast another 10 years.He will lead ODM without being on the ballot and play a key role of kingmaker.There are a group of leaders within ODM: 1.Josphat Nanok 2.Hassan Joho 3.James Ongwae 4.Wycliff Oparanya.Raila will do well to groom them into a strong cohesive unit that will take over from him when he finally steps back and let them lead.This will take time and wont be done in a hurry.As of now,there is no vacancy in ODM leadership.Raila is the party leader while 001 and Oparanya are his deputies.


Those are all non-starters plus parties belong to tribes, just like Ford Kenya will always be a luhya party, ODM must remain a Luo party or lose out. Mdvd and Kalooser could have easily consolidated into ODM instead of forming NASA but they know the implication of how they will be seen by their tribes. So Nanok and Joho should just forget.

BBI will solve it
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Realtreaty
#63 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 9:39:11 PM
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From the word go, Kalonzo had declared Raila cannot beat Uhuru in polls. Kalonzo followed Raila blind folded just incase his forethought was not as good as he knew it.
Now he should tell Raila the same TRUTH that he had predicted that he(Raila) could not beat Uhuru

Jubilee even was gunning to a 72% if all voters came out and voted well.

Raila other aim is to discredit Ruto for the 2022 as someone they beat in 2017. Nothing to lose by doing so by ODM who think their candidate could beat Ruto in 2022 hoping that not all Kenyans will support Ruto as they did for Uhuru

The game being played is that to screw Ruto 2022 where Raila want to play a King Maker!!
stocksmaster
#64 Posted : Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:36:15 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!


I still believe Raila has one national elections in him.....but not for the presidency. One way to keep the NASA coalition together is to engage in a national political activity, and the best bet for that is a referendum in 24-36 months time ...A sort of midterm elections.

A referendum that has one theme: Pesa Mashinani. It was one of their key pillars in the just ended elections and a push to have 45-50% of all government funds devolved would get nationwide appeal (its hard to see which governor would not want three times the allocation they currently get). That issue being dear to most Kenyans would find widespread support in most regions of Kenya. However, it would make matters very complex for Jubilee to balance the budget with the huge loans that they took during the 1st term while possibly giving NASA an electoral win that would bind the principals together and a feel good factor for their supporters going into 2022.

Time will tell but don't be surprised if the next push by NASA after losing the presidential petition is not far from what I have documented here.......a deepening of federalism that started with devolution.

Happy hunting.
obiero
#65 Posted : Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:25:37 PM
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stocksmaster wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!


I still believe Raila has one national elections in him.....but not for the presidency. One way to keep the NASA coalition together is to engage in a national political activity, and the best bet for that is a referendum in 24-36 months time ...A sort of midterm elections.

A referendum that has one theme: Pesa Mashinani. It was one of their key pillars in the just ended elections and a push to have 45-50% of all government funds devolved would get nationwide appeal (its hard to see which governor would not want three times the allocation they currently get). That issue being dear to most Kenyans would find widespread support in most regions of Kenya. However, it would make matters very complex for Jubilee to balance the budget with the huge loans that they took during the 1st term while possibly giving NASA an electoral win that would bind the principals together and a feel good factor for their supporters going into 2022.

Time will tell but don't be surprised if the next push by NASA after losing the presidential petition is not far from what I have documented here.......a deepening of federalism that started with devolution.

Happy hunting.

And @stocksmaster that will be a good thing
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Muheani
#66 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:00:24 PM
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thuks
#67 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:49:45 PM
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[quote=Muheani]Weta says.....

http://www.the-star.co.k...rs-in-petition_c1619807[/quote]
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innairobi
#68 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:58:58 PM
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Wetangula ni kelele tu but eventually anaweza tosheka if he's offered kiti ya Deputy President. The problem will be getting either Mudavadi or Kalonzo to step down for the other.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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#69 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:34:34 PM
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stocksmaster wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!


I still believe Raila has one national elections in him.....but not for the presidency. One way to keep the NASA coalition together is to engage in a national political activity, and the best bet for that is a referendum in 24-36 months time ...A sort of midterm elections.

A referendum that has one theme: Pesa Mashinani. It was one of their key pillars in the just ended elections and a push to have 45-50% of all government funds devolved would get nationwide appeal (its hard to see which governor would not want three times the allocation they currently get). That issue being dear to most Kenyans would find widespread support in most regions of Kenya. However, it would make matters very complex for Jubilee to balance the budget with the huge loans that they took during the 1st term while possibly giving NASA an electoral win that would bind the principals together and a feel good factor for their supporters going into 2022.

Time will tell but don't be surprised if the next push by NASA after losing the presidential petition is not far from what I have documented here.......a deepening of federalism that started with devolution.

Happy hunting.


Unfortunately, numbers are not on their side. Numbers in counties and the national assembly.
Iganamagana
#70 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 8:00:19 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Vacancy! Vacancy!, Vacancy! Who will be the next ODM LEADER after Raila.
The Nasa Coalition won't last for a year, it is ice in the sun from now

Let us have all Good Views!!!


There will be no ODM after Raila. Raila is ODM and ODM is Raila!
Realtreaty
#71 Posted : Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:25:46 AM
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Nasa should support Ndii and MaDVD as the team for 2022
Ndii can make a good 'Technical President' while MaDVD awaits a free swim to Deputy President.

MaDVD cannot coach Luos together
Forget Kalonzo, he is barren
Iganamagana
#72 Posted : Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:55:24 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Nasa should support Ndii and MaDVD as the team for 2022
Ndii can make a good 'Technical President' while MaDVD awaits a free swim to Deputy President.

MaDVD cannot coach Luos together
Forget Kalonzo, he is barren


Ndii na hiyo kisirani yake. He wants to divide up the country and then you offer him leadership?

Please be nice to Kalonzo. He is an elder. When your father is naked, you do not shout about it from the rooftop.
Realtreaty
#73 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:33:24 PM
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It is true Raila went to Supreme court to buy time to Prevent Kalonzo taking over the Mantle for Nasa
Next move will be Nasa losing again in court and Raila refusing to concede.
This will lead to Kalonzo bolting and Raila will be left playing games with MaDVD who is just a fat barking Dog with no teeth to bite.
The confusion Raila intends to make is to kill his co-principals to create another way for ODM to run for elections in 2022 with him either on stretcher or walking stick

Its time Melon said enough is enough with Raila else he becomes the soft liner for Raila to do the wiping (WIPER)
Gathige
#74 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:57:54 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
It is true Raila went to Supreme court to buy time to Prevent Kalonzo taking over the Mantle for Nasa
Next move will be Nasa losing again in court and Raila refusing to concede.
This will lead to Kalonzo bolting and Raila will be left playing games with MaDVD who is just a fat barking Dog with no teeth to bite.
The confusion Raila intends to make is to kill his co-principals to create another way for ODM to run for elections in 2022 with him either on stretcher or walking stick

Its time Melon said enough is enough with Raila else he becomes the soft liner for Raila to do the wiping (WIPER)


Very true. RAO will be in every future election as long as he is alive. He is a real entrepreneur in politics and he has a loyal follower base. His political enterprise makes good returns and his inner circle hat depends on him for political mileage would like to have him around for their benefit.

For SMK his best chances still remain with RAO as his ground has moved, MdVDs star is rising as an entertainer under Nasa Hao label,
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
harrydre
#75 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 2:36:37 AM
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I foresee Babu Owino and other young turks attempting to snatch away ODM as a party in the near future.
Get Vaccinated, wear a mask, social distance, wash hands. Lets fight this virus!!
thuks
#76 Posted : Sunday, September 03, 2017 5:29:03 PM
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Aukot- excellent replacement
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dunkang
#77 Posted : Sunday, September 03, 2017 9:42:50 PM
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There is no ODM without Raila, so, this thread doesn't make sense at all.

Raila is ODM and ODM is Raila. Nothing like "ODM after Raila".
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wukan
#78 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 7:10:00 AM
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wukan wrote:
MuchNo wrote:


Governor-elect Anyang Nyong'o has made the only utterances that exhibit leadership in Luo Nyanza today. He called on people to go back to work and to shun violence. In sum, he knows that his future is aligned with the well-being of the county, and a county that has its economy grind to a halt because Baba was not elected president is not the economy the Mr Nyang'o wants to inherit.

Tuju does not want Baba's mantle. If Tuju is to be a Luo Nyanza leader, he will forge his own following. However, that's a tall order after Jaramogi and Raila have established fanatical followers that see Tuju as a sell-out. Tuju's best bet is to establish himself as a national leader from Nairobi.

Kidero was a one-term wonder. He is the current example of how a successful (?) captain of industry does not a successful politician make. He failed to capture the Nairobi populace's support, he failed to serve the Nairobi populace, and it is almost certain that he will fail to capture the attention of the Luo Nyanza populace.

Dalmas is too old to directly participate in today's politics. So who does this leave? Sen Orengo is busy making utterances that he will regret. He burnt valuable international bridges when he accused President Mahama of Ghana, President Mbeki of South Africa and Secretary Kerry of the USA of being partisan.

I would venture a guess that depending on his ability to uplift Kisumu County to be a better place than he found it, this leaves Gov Anyang Nyang'o as the obvious choice to take over the mantle of national leadership of the Luo Nyanza nation. He is a clear thinker, articulate in word and deed, and he has international support.

Time will tell, but my money's on him. The biggest danger that he faces in this quest is Baba himself. If I can see this, Baba saw it long ago; and, seeing as Baba will want to run again in '22, he will see Gov Nyong'o as a direct threat - so he may start to malign any effort that Gov Nyong'o may make at making something of Kisumu. The next 5 years will be very inetersting indeed.


Kisumu will do well once the SGR is done. It sits on a strategic point when you view it from google maps. It sits in the same position as Buffalo, Cleavland, Chicago. The 8 Billion port will be a game-changer. It will give Kisumu trade influence westwards into eastern DRC. With trade comes capital with capital comes political power not the other way round. If the county govt can get its act together especially in spatial planning and urban planning (contain the urban sprawl), it will be more strategic in future. The next 5-10 years will be very interesting. Baba's pending retirement is the natural way of things.


Things we said 3 years ago. Gov Nyong'o can't believe happening

Quote:
Nyong'o noted that one of the benefits of political stability is that is an environment in which democracy thrives and development is achieved.

"If you came here two years ago, you could not believe what you are seeing here could have existed," he said.

He added that the benefit of BBI had brought political stability in the country so that democracy can exist and development can go on and it has been demonstrated in Kisumu at the Kisumu Port.

The governor further noted that the volume of the cargo handles in ten revamped ports since 2019 has gone up by 60 per cent and various ships within the port have transported various goods to the neighboring countries.

He said the number of vessels docking at the port had also increased to 41 up from 2019 when it was only 19.
https://www.the-star.co....and-port-by-400-meters/

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