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On fake stock trader Ally Khan Sachu
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:31:26 AM
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Others

Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist.

Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt.

Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made?

Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out.

Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks.

We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
xtina
#42 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 12:52:09 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/26/2008
Posts: 255
VituVingiSana wrote:
Others

Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist.

Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt.

Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made?

Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out.

Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks.

We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made.


At some point you also talked about I&M....
jokes
#43 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 2:06:13 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2008
Posts: 323
Murenju wrote:
jokes wrote:
All i know is that when you are faced with a businessman know that you are facing a gangster in a suit.


Over generalizationShame on you . There are genuine businessmen dressed well. Nevertheless, I am glad this calibre of smart thugs are being exposed and hopefully will have their day with the judge.


I did smile but business is not what we are taught in schools. In real life its different. I will give just one example with a question, where did bill gates get windows?

VituVingiSana
#44 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 3:55:44 PM
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Location: Nairobi
xtina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Others

Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist.

Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt.

Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made?

Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out.

Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks.

We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made.


At some point you also talked about I&M....
I have many, many posts. Please shed more light on what specifically you are referring to.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#45 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 8:20:02 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,488
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:


I always knew from his rambling podcasts that there was something fishy about this tunjamaaa

His fairytale story of working for top tier companies with zero finance training did not add up.

Nor (as someone in this forum pointed out) does any genuinely rich person call his company "Rich Inc". Only vain mafioso type cretins like such garish titles to their companies.

He must have minted his pile with these insider trading manenos huko London then came to masquerade as a financial guru hapa. To date we have not heard of any stellar investments in the NSE that led to him minting a fortune in it. Just wild punditry on TV everywhere with no basis.
Needless to say am not surprised amengamatwa.

Siku za mwizi....


Moral of the story nobody ever got rich in a legit way simply trading stocks. Even pedo Buffett has a dark history and doesnt even trade stocks anymore but is a corporate activist who takes over companies and puts them under his control...that's not stock trading at all.


Add Burbridge and Kestrel capital.....wakora tupu.

What did Burbidge and Kestrel do to you?



Atlas Africa Industries and Kenol Kobil insider trading

Either we all got conned by Atlas or the circumstances changed esp with the oil prices dropping. I sold out at a loss. have since become skeptical of these pre-IPO pitches.

On Kestrel and KK: I don't know if Kestrel is really liable. Kestrel did issue a research report (public info) mid-2018 about KK's true value being 24. The Rubis offer was 23 so folks could have acted on it.

I have been telling folks about KK for years. No insider info. Just logic.
Ohana cleaned up Segman's hedging mess.
He settled lawsuits.
Then he cleaned up the KPRL debts.
He ditched low-margin businesses when financing was tight.
He paid down debt.
Sold off loss-making TZ but expanded in profitable RW/BU/UG and KE.
The biwott croaked.

The next "move" was staring us in the face. Look through the long-running KK thread. There were false starts and finally Rubis came into the picture.



Fair enough
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
bartum
#46 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:05:50 AM
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Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11
VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:35:43 AM
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bartum wrote:
Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11
It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
bartum
#48 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:26:59 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
bartum wrote:
Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11
It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment.

Did but would have been better at kk, was 7 figure shares,
VituVingiSana
#49 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:33:03 AM
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bartum wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
bartum wrote:
Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11
It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment.

Did but would have been better at kk, was 7 figure shares,
Wow! That's a huge portfolio. Nice. Too bad you missed out but who knew?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
SINAMAKOSA
#50 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:35:55 PM
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Location: COLLIN COUNTY
KENOLKOBIL

Quantity: 93,600
Weighted Average 9.91
Market Price: 21.40
Market Value: 2,003,040.00
Profit/Loss: 1,075,641.84
Profit/Loss %115.98.

Muchas Gracias @VVS.

VituVingiSana
#51 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2019 12:24:10 AM
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SINAMAKOSA wrote:
KENOLKOBIL

Quantity: 93,600
Weighted Average 9.91
Market Price: 21.40
Market Value: 2,003,040.00
Profit/Loss: 1,075,641.84
Profit/Loss %115.98.

Muchas Gracias @VVS.


You are welcome! smile Time to Dancing

It's comments like these that make the many years of analysis and debate worth it [& the cash too!] Pray
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
tony stark
#52 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:05:30 PM
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Posts: 839
Applause Applause Applause Applause
Wazua impresses again!

VituVingiSana wrote:
SINAMAKOSA wrote:
KENOLKOBIL

Quantity: 93,600
Weighted Average 9.91
Market Price: 21.40
Market Value: 2,003,040.00
Profit/Loss: 1,075,641.84
Profit/Loss %115.98.

Muchas Gracias @VVS.


You are welcome! smile Time to Dancing

It's comments like these that make the many years of analysis and debate worth it [& the cash too!] Pray

Superprime1
#53 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:13:34 PM
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Joined: 5/2/2018
Posts: 212
SINAMAKOSA wrote:
KENOLKOBIL

Quantity: 93,600
Weighted Average 9.91
Market Price: 21.40
Market Value: 2,003,040.00
Profit/Loss: 1,075,641.84
Profit/Loss %115.98.

Muchas Gracias @VVS.


When did you buy?
SINAMAKOSA
#54 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2019 4:40:08 PM
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Location: COLLIN COUNTY
Started buying in 2014, last buy in Nov 2017.
Superprime1
#55 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2019 9:33:02 AM
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Posts: 212
SINAMAKOSA wrote:
Started buying in 2014, last buy in Nov 2017.

Applause Applause Nice!
Mucher
#56 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:43:01 AM
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Joined: 1/15/2019
Posts: 33
Jokes, I fully agree with you. I think that during studies we cannot have good perception of how real business looks like. Only when we start doing one, the second part of learning starts where all most important lectures are thought
sparkly
#57 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:25:51 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,110
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
CMA FRYING BIG FISH


The Capital Markets Authority (CMA) has fined a former CBA Capital executive a total of Sh166.9 million for engaging in insider trading in Treasury bonds between 2016 and 2017.

CMA said Tuesday in a statement that Mr David Maena, formerly of CBA Capital, has been found guilty of dealing with privileged (non-public) information on bond trades, which he used to front run the market and make dual trades in order to profit at the expense of other investors.



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VituVingiSana
#58 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:07:47 AM
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Apparently Rubis has 50% so the buyout will go through but KK will remain listed unless they can get to 75%
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#59 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:09:38 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Apparently Rubis has 50% so the buyout will go through but KK will remain listed unless they can get to 75%

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heri
#60 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:13:49 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Apparently Rubis has 50% so the buyout will go through but KK will remain listed unless they can get to 75%


when do we get a chance to buy the shares again in the market?
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