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CIC Insurance Group Plc's FY 2018
Ericsson
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:44:35 PM
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winmak wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CIC Insurance is capitalizing on mistakes made by Jubilee,Britam and Old Mutual UAP


Which mistakes are these?


You saw Britam's Unit trust Mkt share is reducing as per CMA stats.
Jubilee recorded a decline in Earned premiums
VituVingiSana
#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:50:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
winmak wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CIC Insurance is capitalizing on mistakes made by Jubilee,Britam and Old Mutual UAP


Which mistakes are these?


You saw Britam's Unit trust Mkt share is reducing as per CMA stats.
Jubilee recorded a decline in Earned premiums

“[A great insurance manager] follows the policy of sticking with business that he understands and wants, without giving consideration to the impact on volume.” Warren Buffet's 1978 letter page 6.
“We hear about a great many insurance managers talk about being willing to reduce volume in order to underwrite profitably, but we find that very few actually do so.” Warren Buffett's 1979 letter page 5.

While it is common to talk about writing business only with strict underwriting criteria, it is hard to avoid the siren song of growth, especially for publicly traded carriers that have to worry about investors who only care about next quarter. Though it is challenging, a good underwriter must practice discipline in choosing the risks that it insures. Profitable companies will understand that this may mean growing more slowly or less than the year before but will assure profitability.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
heri
#23 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:37:02 PM
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My ABP is 4.75 . 30% down . I need money to buy at 3 bob
Ericsson
#24 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:41:12 PM
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heri wrote:
My ABP is 4.75 . 30% down . I need money to buy at 3 bob


You can fuliza
VituVingiSana
#25 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:05:30 AM
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CIC boss Tom Gitogo buys 4.2m shares
https://www.businessdail...5206-ui45vfz/index.html

"He now holds 9.5 million shares currently worth Sh32.3 million, up from 5.3 million shares he held in 2017."

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#26 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:17:08 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
CIC boss Tom Gitogo buys 4.2m shares
https://www.businessdail...5206-ui45vfz/index.html

"He now holds 9.5 million shares currently worth Sh32.3 million, up from 5.3 million shares he held in 2017."

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Share price up 10% today
babashuge
#27 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:53:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
CIC boss Tom Gitogo buys 4.2m shares
https://www.businessdail...5206-ui45vfz/index.html

"He now holds 9.5 million shares currently worth Sh32.3 million, up from 5.3 million shares he held in 2017."

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...when i grow up
Ericsson
#28 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:05:28 PM
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babashuge wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
CIC boss Tom Gitogo buys 4.2m shares
https://www.businessdail...5206-ui45vfz/index.html

"He now holds 9.5 million shares currently worth Sh32.3 million, up from 5.3 million shares he held in 2017."

Applause Applause Applause



...when i grow up


Share price got a boost today.
VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2019 10:07:15 AM
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When the CEO is adding shares it sends a positive signal. Though his purchases are just a fraction of his total remuneration but still very positive given the quantity he purchased.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#30 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2019 1:21:27 PM
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An insurance company to watch out
Pesa Nane
#31 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:59:43 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Ericsson
#32 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2019 11:07:40 AM
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The ksh.5bn bond matures in October this year.
Once it's fully repaid from next year there will be a jump in the profit since they will no longer be paying ksh.650mn in interest
Ericsson
#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2019 10:33:23 PM
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VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2019 11:17:59 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/CIC-sells-712-acre-land-as-Sh5bn-bond-matures/4003102-5189656-7w1vtoz/index.html

Property market slow down

A huge boost in profits will show up IF they can sell the land. Good luck!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:40:51 PM
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https://www.businessdail...09094-i1x8k6/index.html

CIC Insurance’s unit trust scheme slightly widened its market share ahead of Britam in the first quarter of the year as industry assets under management went up by 4.5 percent.

Latest Capital Markets Authority (CMA) data on collective investment schemes shows that CIC had Sh22.4 billion in assets under management by the end of March, representing 35.1 percent of the industry total of Sh63.78 billion.

Britam’s unit trust scheme followed with assets of Sh8.67 billion, equivalent to 13.6 percent of the industry total.

By the end of December 2018, CIC and Britam controlled 34.25 percent and 14.23 percent respectively of the assets under management.
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