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Angelica _ann
#21 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 8:40:04 AM
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Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#22 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 9:16:19 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Many factors could lead to this. Rural urban migration for example. An informed position would be to compare the number of births and deaths recorded in the 10 years. Note Census data is not reflective of voter numbers as i've seen uninformed media yappers saying. People leave cities and towns to vote for their candidates unfortunately or is it fortunately the monies disbursed for counties and cdf is based on census data.

Big question should be what constituencies will cease to exist now?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Lolest!
#23 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 9:45:06 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 11,765
Location: Kianjokoma
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kawi254
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:08:18 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2015
Posts: 346
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Are the borders of Nyamira in 2009 same as 2019?

There were no counties in 2009. As much as the census in their backdated tally would fall back current constituencies into 2009 'counties' the constituencies borders were also redrawn with 2010 Constitution.
wukan
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:12:40 AM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,228
Completion of Isiolo-Moyale road explains the population jump in Isiolo and Marsabit. That road was a game changer making Marsabit switch and vote for Uhuruto in 2017 compared to 2013.
kingfisher
#26 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:15:59 AM
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Joined: 4/9/2008
Posts: 2,810
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Many factors could lead to this. Rural urban migration for example. An informed position would be to compare the number of births and deaths recorded in the 10 years. Note Census data is not reflective of voter numbers as i've seen uninformed media yappers saying. People leave cities and towns to vote for their candidates unfortunately or is it fortunately the monies disbursed for counties and cdf is based on census data.

Big question should be what constituencies will cease to exist now?


Where is this magic number defined?

But many many constituencies will go if that number is adhered to!!
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
kingfisher
#27 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:25:03 AM
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Joined: 4/9/2008
Posts: 2,810
A quick one -- is sub-county equal to constituency??
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
Angelica _ann
#28 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 11:08:23 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 10,928
kawi254 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Are the borders of Nyamira in 2009 same as 2019?

There were no counties in 2009. As much as the census in their backdated tally would fall back current constituencies into 2009 'counties' the constituencies borders were also redrawn with 2010 Constitution.


Let me speak for Nyanza, the 7 districts that existed before 2010 were just converted into Counties with the boundaries remaining intact. So Nyamira District then is Nyamira county now and thereby the ease of comparison.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Lolest!
#29 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 1:21:13 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 11,765
Location: Kianjokoma
kingfisher wrote:
A quick one -- is sub-county equal to constituency??

Yes. Though administratively some counties split some constituencies into 2 subcounties eg Thika
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murchr
#30 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 2:42:17 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
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Hao wz Isiolo wengi ni wameru who have moved to Isiolo to make money. Plus the leaders there were very persistent and led a drive to ensure that even nomads were counted.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#31 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 2:44:13 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
kingfisher wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Many factors could lead to this. Rural urban migration for example. An informed position would be to compare the number of births and deaths recorded in the 10 years. Note Census data is not reflective of voter numbers as i've seen uninformed media yappers saying. People leave cities and towns to vote for their candidates unfortunately or is it fortunately the monies disbursed for counties and cdf is based on census data.

Big question should be what constituencies will cease to exist now?


Where is this magic number defined?

But many many constituencies will go if that number is adhered to!!


IEBC. The constitution mentions that there has to be 290 constituencies.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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AlphDoti
#32 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 5:45:25 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,083
Location: Kenya
Does this mean the 2022 elections vifarangas are now finished. Or cooking is the next step?
jmbada
#33 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 6:07:32 PM
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Joined: 1/1/2011
Posts: 385
murchr wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Many factors could lead to this. Rural urban migration for example. An informed position would be to compare the number of births and deaths recorded in the 10 years. Note Census data is not reflective of voter numbers as i've seen uninformed media yappers saying. People leave cities and towns to vote for their candidates unfortunately or is it fortunately the monies disbursed for counties and cdf is based on census data.

Big question should be what constituencies will cease to exist now?


Where is this magic number defined?

But many many constituencies will go if that number is adhered to!!


IEBC. The constitution mentions that there has to be 290 constituencies.

The formulae for defining constituency demarcation is also defined in some IEBC Act, but was largely ignored in the last demarcation. Next one is due 8-12 years after the last round of demarcations. Population was supposed to have the highest weight but was not applied in the last round of boundary demarcations.
jmbada
#34 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2019 6:09:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Does this mean the 2022 elections vifarangas are now finished. Or cooking is the next step?

Hot topic and three soon.
@AlphDoti, there is another post that you need to help us understand: tombs of dem days?
murchr
#35 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2019 6:39:47 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
jmbada wrote:
murchr wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nyamira doesn't look right.....


In 2009, Nyamira had 598,252 people.
In 2019, we have been told there are 605,000.

Additional 6,748 in 10 years?


Many factors could lead to this. Rural urban migration for example. An informed position would be to compare the number of births and deaths recorded in the 10 years. Note Census data is not reflective of voter numbers as i've seen uninformed media yappers saying. People leave cities and towns to vote for their candidates unfortunately or is it fortunately the monies disbursed for counties and cdf is based on census data.

Big question should be what constituencies will cease to exist now?


Where is this magic number defined?

But many many constituencies will go if that number is adhered to!!


IEBC. The constitution mentions that there has to be 290 constituencies.

The formulae for defining constituency demarcation is also defined in some IEBC Act, but was largely ignored in the last demarcation. Next one is due 8-12 years after the last round of demarcations. Population was supposed to have the highest weight but was not applied in the last round of boundary demarcations.



The new constitution came in place in 2010. The last census was in 2009.

Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:

89. Delimitation of electoral units

1) There shall be two hundred and ninety constituencies for the purposes of the election of the members of the National Assembly provided for in Article 97 (1) (a).

(2) The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission shall review the names and boundaries of constituencies at intervals of not less than eight years, and not more than twelve years, but any review shall be completed at least twelve months before a general election of members of Parliament.

(3) The Commission shall review the number, names and boundaries of wards periodically.

(4) If a general election is to be held within twelve months after the completion of a review by the Commission, the new boundaries shall not take effect for purposes of that election.

(5) The boundaries of each constituency shall be such that the number of inhabitants in the constituency is, as nearly as possible, equal to the population quota, but the number of inhabitants of a constituency may be greater or lesser than the population quota in the manner specified in clause (6) to take account of--

(a) geographical features and urban centres;
(b) community of interest, historical, economic and cultural ties; and
(c) means of communication.


(6) The number of inhabitants of a constituency or ward may be greater or lesser than the population quota by a margin of not more than--

(a) forty per cent for cities and sparsely populated areas;
and
(b) thirty per cent for the other areas.

(7) In reviewing constituency and ward boundaries the Commission shall--

(a) consult all interested parties; and
(b) progressively work towards ensuring that the number of inhabitants in each constituency and ward is, as nearly as possible, equal to the population quota.

(8) If necessary, the Commission shall alter the names and boundaries of constituencies, and the number, names and boundaries of wards.

(9) Subject to clauses (1), (2), (3) and (4), the names and details of the boundaries of constituencies and wards determined by the Commission shall be published in the Gazette, and shall come into effect on the dissolution of Parliament first following their publication.

(10) A person may apply to the High Court for review of a decision of the Commission made under this Article.

(11) An application for the review of a decision made under this Article shall be filed within thirty days of the publication of the decision in the Gazette and shall be heard and determined within three months of the date on which it is filed.

(12) For the purposes of this Article, “population quota” means the number obtained by dividing the number of inhabitants of Kenya by the number of constituencies or wards, as applicable, into which Kenya is divided under this Article.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kingfisher
#36 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2019 7:45:50 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
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Easy... the reason why Meru and Tharaka Nithi county populations have grown by far much less percentages... those counties plus Wajir and Garissa you will find huge populations of Merus
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2012
#37 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2019 10:06:46 AM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,559
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
That was impressively fast.

Now who still thinks that those mps representing scorpions should have the same say as those representing Kiambuians?


Let's not mistake representation for leadership. Kiambu leaders are some of the most useless leaders I know. But Kiambu should definitely get more allocation from the national budget.

Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. Rosa Parks
kaka2za
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 07, 2019 8:41:23 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 3,589
Location: Gwitu
2012 wrote:
murchr wrote:
That was impressively fast.

Now who still thinks that those mps representing scorpions should have the same say as those representing Kiambuians?


Let's not mistake representation for leadership. Kiambu leaders are some of the most useless leaders I know. But Kiambu should definitely get more allocation from the national budget.


Just say Kiambu has the dumbest voters, I included.
murchr
#39 Posted : Friday, November 08, 2019 12:22:28 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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2012 wrote:
murchr wrote:
That was impressively fast.

Now who still thinks that those mps representing scorpions should have the same say as those representing Kiambuians?


Let's not mistake representation for leadership. Kiambu leaders are some of the most useless leaders I know. But Kiambu should definitely get more allocation from the national budget.


You completely went off the script. Am referring to that stupid BBI proposal. Lakini ariel naona haishiki.

On leadership, i told wazuans Kiambu will miss Kabogo, nikaandikiwa insha

#206 Posted : Thursday, August 02, 2018 11:59:35 AM wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
murchr wrote:


Kiambu will miss Kabufallo


Kiambu to Miss kabuffalo????? Wewe unajua hako kamtu ama unakaonanga kakiongea rusungu mingi tu?

This monster called Babayao is 10 times more effective than Kabogoyo. In a few short months,

1. The dreaded Thika traffic jam is no more. One simple stroke and poof!
2. Smooth roads. Ile kitu kabogoyo kalitufanyia.....Thika became heavily potholed within the 1st 3 years and he did nothing. He eventually filled the potholes with murram!!! Yaani ni kama madharau. Mtado?
3. No illicit alcohol. Even in the slums.
4. No Hawkers in town.
5. No insults.
6. No political cat-fights and leadership chaos. All the Mpigs and Mrats are with him.
7. No sabotage ..... burnt markets etc. Kabogoyo torched the Thika-Makongeni market, just because the women there were siding with Alice.

Kelele inatoka tu from the health sector, which I believe, the noise will bear fruits. Problem with Babayao is very poor PR and loose mouth. Lakini kazi anafanya.

Wakahare is a listener, and is really afraid of popular uprising. If it were Kabogoyo tungekuwa tumekula matusi by now.

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