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KenGen HY 2019
Extraterrestrial
#301 Posted : Wednesday, November 27, 2019 9:28:01 PM
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FUNKY
#302 Posted : Sunday, December 01, 2019 11:36:47 PM
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https://www.businessdail...69406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen
Extraterrestrial
#303 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 6:30:44 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Hydro is not particularly renowned for its profitability...
KaunganaDoDo
#304 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 9:34:02 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Even this December ,Lake Turkana Wind will be curtailed(it has reached its annual threshold) so KenGen Hydros and Geothermals will run full capacity untill year end.
Extraterrestrial
#305 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 12:29:35 PM
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Even this December ,Lake Turkana Wind will be curtailed(it has reached its annual threshold) so KenGen Hydros and Geothermals will run full capacity untill year end.


But why would it be curtailed if the electricity is half price on threshold being exceeded?
KaunganaDoDo
#306 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 1:46:59 PM
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Extraterrestrial wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Even this December ,Lake Turkana Wind will be curtailed(it has reached its annual threshold) so KenGen Hydros and Geothermals will run full capacity untill year end.


But why would it be curtailed if the electricity is half price on threshold being exceeded?


The reason why Lake Turkana Wind was given prominence in dispatch is because they have deemed generation contract...KPLC has to dispatch them upto the threhhold or pay them.....after the threshold is reached per year, no firm obligation to pay them...What has been happening is that KenGen plants(hydros and geothermal) have been curtailed to favour LTWP dispatch....despite a marginal costs of Geothermals and hydros being almost 2.5 shillings per kWh...LTWP is tariff is 11 shillings per kWh....even if the tariff is half for LTWP, its still expensive than KenGen Geothermals and Hydros....Olkaria IV and Olkaria I has been venting steam

TREASURY PAYS ltwp Ksh 1.2B CHINI YA MAJI
VituVingiSana
#307 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 7:08:26 PM
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Even this December ,Lake Turkana Wind will be curtailed(it has reached its annual threshold) so KenGen Hydros and Geothermals will run full capacity untill year end.


But why would it be curtailed if the electricity is half price on threshold being exceeded?


The reason why Lake Turkana Wind was given prominence in dispatch is because they have deemed generation contract...KPLC has to dispatch them upto the threhhold or pay them.....after the threshold is reached per year, no firm obligation to pay them...What has been happening is that KenGen plants(hydros and geothermal) have been curtailed to favour LTWP dispatch....despite a marginal costs of Geothermals and hydros being almost 2.5 shillings per kWh...LTWP is tariff is 11 shillings per kWh....even if the tariff is half for LTWP, its still expensive than KenGen Geothermals and Hydros....Olkaria IV and Olkaria I has been venting steam

That grand Jubilee plans and tall tales of industrialization in 5-10 years have fallen flat.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
KaunganaDoDo
#308 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2019 7:30:43 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/cheaper-power-for-Kenyans/3946234-5369406-8h4otb/index.html

Next year is gonna be very good for kengen


Even this December ,Lake Turkana Wind will be curtailed(it has reached its annual threshold) so KenGen Hydros and Geothermals will run full capacity untill year end.


But why would it be curtailed if the electricity is half price on threshold being exceeded?


The reason why Lake Turkana Wind was given prominence in dispatch is because they have deemed generation contract...KPLC has to dispatch them upto the threhhold or pay them.....after the threshold is reached per year, no firm obligation to pay them...What has been happening is that KenGen plants(hydros and geothermal) have been curtailed to favour LTWP dispatch....despite a marginal costs of Geothermals and hydros being almost 2.5 shillings per kWh...LTWP is tariff is 11 shillings per kWh....even if the tariff is half for LTWP, its still expensive than KenGen Geothermals and Hydros....Olkaria IV and Olkaria I has been venting steam

That grand Jubilee plans and tall tales of industrialization in 5-10 years have fallen flat.


Flat. By the way they have really messed up the energy sector with numerous supply side costs that's even remotely impossible to reduce cost of electricity by even a cent/kwh in the coming 5 years
KaunganaDoDo
#309 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:48:41 AM
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FUNKY
#310 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2019 11:16:59 AM
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Ericsson
#311 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2019 3:06:09 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-dividend-delay/4003102-5376006-83bn51z/index.html


Useless reporting,nothing new business daily is saying
sparkly
#312 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2019 7:57:43 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-dividend-delay/4003102-5376006-83bn51z/index.html


Useless reporting,nothing new business daily is saying


Trully useless reporting. Some companies issue interim dividends even without the audited accounts.

IMO Kengen should just release the results as unaudited and pay dividends.

It's unacceptable for a company traded on a world recognized exchange to peg release of results on a political process that might take a whole year.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mwekez@ji
#313 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2019 6:57:19 AM
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What's the expected dividend here? @KaunganaDoDo, et al
KaunganaDoDo
#314 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2019 9:41:23 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
What's the expected dividend here? @KaunganaDoDo, et al


Its never certain. Though KenGen receivables from KPLC has reduced, implying increased cashflow position for KenGen...In an environment when Government is squeezing money from state corporations, its a good sign.
kenyan2019
#315 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2019 11:34:14 AM
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Kenya rises to the top five in global clean energy ranking https://www.businessdail...78178-ktxapq/index.html via @BD_Africa
sparkly
#316 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:29:14 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-dividend-delay/4003102-5376006-83bn51z/index.html


Useless reporting,nothing new business daily is saying


Trully useless reporting. Some companies issue interim dividends even without the audited accounts.

IMO Kengen should just release the results as unaudited and pay dividends.

It's unacceptable for a company traded on a world recognized exchange to peg release of results on a political process that might take a whole year.


Auditor General position to be re-advertised. It's common knowledge that powers that be want the position vacant for as long as possible.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Angelica _ann
#317 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2019 7:18:06 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 10,994
sparkly wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-dividend-delay/4003102-5376006-83bn51z/index.html


Useless reporting,nothing new business daily is saying


Trully useless reporting. Some companies issue interim dividends even without the audited accounts.

IMO Kengen should just release the results as unaudited and pay dividends.

It's unacceptable for a company traded on a world recognized exchange to peg release of results on a political process that might take a whole year.


Auditor General position to be re-advertised. It's common knowledge that powers that be want the position vacant for as long as possible.


Of course us foolish Kenyans believe that they didn't get suitable candidates for the position. So there was no recommendation to the President. The ruling elite have their way again.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#318 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2019 8:17:00 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 7,736
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-dividend-delay/4003102-5376006-83bn51z/index.html


Useless reporting,nothing new business daily is saying


Trully useless reporting. Some companies issue interim dividends even without the audited accounts.

IMO Kengen should just release the results as unaudited and pay dividends.

It's unacceptable for a company traded on a world recognized exchange to peg release of results on a political process that might take a whole year.


Auditor General position to be re-advertised. It's common knowledge that powers that be want the position vacant for as long as possible.


Of course us foolish Kenyans believe that they didn't get suitable candidates for the position. So there was no recommendation to the President. The ruling elite have their way again.

Foolish kenyans are busy talking about BBI
Ericsson
#319 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2019 9:05:50 AM
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Dividend that one mid next year
FUNKY
#320 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2019 1:17:55 PM
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