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cabinet reshuffle
Wakanyugi
#21 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:23:37 AM
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Joined: 7/3/2007
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newfarer wrote:
gk wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
gk wrote:
Kiunjuri, Adan out



Full mucene here.....

https://www.google.com/a...s-cabinet-312005/%3famp


Adan is still in...w

Who will finish the locust identification project


Yani this was a Kiunjuri targeted reshuffle!

Isokei.

Bora uhai


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
limanika
#22 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:47:30 AM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
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These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?
murchr
#23 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:26:47 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,325
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Shak
#24 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:41:30 PM
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Joined: 2/22/2009
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Location: Africa
Betty Maina is a great fit for the Industrialization docket. I wish her well.
kaka2za
#25 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:15:09 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 3,772
Location: Gwitu
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.
murchr
#26 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:46:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,325
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kaka2za
#27 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:42:27 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 3,772
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murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.
Thitifini
#28 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:41:37 AM
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Joined: 1/15/2015
Posts: 631
Location: Kenya
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.


In this & such discussions ;

We fail to appreciate that Ministers/CSs are political guides while PSs and Directors are creators and drivers of policy.

Having technicians as ministers creates an environment of conflicting roles.

Kibaki had a good mix of politicians as Ministers and PSs as former career civil servants. Most PSs were actually former administrators. That's why his policies are more appreciated.

JP created Ministers from technocratic and private sectors, and he messed up the mix....

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
murchr
#29 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 3:40:42 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,325
Thitifini wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.


In this & such discussions ;

We fail to appreciate that Ministers/CSs are political guides while PSs and Directors are creators and drivers of policy.

Having technicians as ministers creates an environment of conflicting roles.

Kibaki had a good mix of politicians as Ministers and PSs as former career civil servants. Most PSs were actually former administrators. That's why his policies are more appreciated.

JP created Ministers from technocratic and private sectors, and he messed up the mix....



PSs and Directors are still the drivers of policy no? For example, the Treasury was lead by directors and technocrats all those who worked with Uhuru when he was just signing documents under Kibaki...so what went wrong?

I think the JP govt's problem is leadership - dictatorship. The big man's wishes MUST be honored if not you are in hot soup. No one seems to be able to advice Kenyatta 2 and if you do not follow his agenda you are as good as gone. So money is committed to white elephants which are not well thought out. What happened to vision 2030?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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freiks
#30 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 8:58:09 AM
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Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,727
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.


In this & such discussions ;

We fail to appreciate that Ministers/CSs are political guides while PSs and Directors are creators and drivers of policy.

Having technicians as ministers creates an environment of conflicting roles.

Kibaki had a good mix of politicians as Ministers and PSs as former career civil servants. Most PSs were actually former administrators. That's why his policies are more appreciated.

JP created Ministers from technocratic and private sectors, and he messed up the mix....



PSs and Directors are still the drivers of policy no? For example, the Treasury was lead by directors and technocrats all those who worked with Uhuru when he was just signing documents under Kibaki...so what went wrong?

I think the JP govt's problem is leadership - dictatorship. The big man's wishes MUST be honored if not you are in hot soup. No one seems to be able to advice Kenyatta 2 and if you do not follow his agenda you are as good as gone. So money is committed to white elephants which are not well thought out. What happened to vision 2030?


Good example of when the big man wants to remove you from the helm, you are minister of Agric and you are leaned towards tangatanga. He tells the treasury not to release money to fight locust so to safe face you tell people to take photos of insects to confirm if its locust. You become a laughing stock and the big man relieves the duies. Once the new minister is in the position the money becomes available. Its called dangling carrots to #WajingaNyinyi
Life is an endless adventure
newfarer
#31 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:15:38 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,442
Location: Uganda
freiks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.


In this & such discussions ;

We fail to appreciate that Ministers/CSs are political guides while PSs and Directors are creators and drivers of policy.

Having technicians as ministers creates an environment of conflicting roles.

Kibaki had a good mix of politicians as Ministers and PSs as former career civil servants. Most PSs were actually former administrators. That's why his policies are more appreciated.

JP created Ministers from technocratic and private sectors, and he messed up the mix....



PSs and Directors are still the drivers of policy no? For example, the Treasury was lead by directors and technocrats all those who worked with Uhuru when he was just signing documents under Kibaki...so what went wrong?

I think the JP govt's problem is leadership - dictatorship. The big man's wishes MUST be honored if not you are in hot soup. No one seems to be able to advice Kenyatta 2 and if you do not follow his agenda you are as good as gone. So money is committed to white elephants which are not well thought out. What happened to vision 2030?


Good example of when the big man wants to remove you from the helm, you are minister of Agric and you are leaned towards tangatanga. He tells the treasury not to release money to fight locust so to safe face you tell people to take photos of insects to confirm if its locust. You become a laughing stock and the big man relieves the duies. Once the new minister is in the position the money becomes available. Its called dangling carrots to #WajingaNyinyi

How do you safe face with such a ridiculous proposal. Sometimes it's better to go missing and wait for the sack
punda amecheka
kaka2za
#32 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2020 11:13:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 3,772
Location: Gwitu
newfarer wrote:
freiks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
These people politic 24hrs about 2022 this, 2022 that, are never seen in office to address problems, and we still expect pork to baby sit them?


Kiunjuri is a good example of what politicians are in government. Busy bodies with nothing to show. But wait a minute that BBI that we are being told to subscribe to wants politicians to run government


Semi-Literate Cabinet ministers in the Kibaki government did better than Ph.D. technocrats in the Tangaweke government.


Eg?


Wakarume.


In this & such discussions ;

We fail to appreciate that Ministers/CSs are political guides while PSs and Directors are creators and drivers of policy.

Having technicians as ministers creates an environment of conflicting roles.

Kibaki had a good mix of politicians as Ministers and PSs as former career civil servants. Most PSs were actually former administrators. That's why his policies are more appreciated.

JP created Ministers from technocratic and private sectors, and he messed up the mix....



PSs and Directors are still the drivers of policy no? For example, the Treasury was lead by directors and technocrats all those who worked with Uhuru when he was just signing documents under Kibaki...so what went wrong?

I think the JP govt's problem is leadership - dictatorship. The big man's wishes MUST be honored if not you are in hot soup. No one seems to be able to advice Kenyatta 2 and if you do not follow his agenda you are as good as gone. So money is committed to white elephants which are not well thought out. What happened to vision 2030?


Good example of when the big man wants to remove you from the helm, you are minister of Agric and you are leaned towards tangatanga. He tells the treasury not to release money to fight locust so to safe face you tell people to take photos of insects to confirm if its locust. You become a laughing stock and the big man relieves the duies. Once the new minister is in the position the money becomes available. Its called dangling carrots to #WajingaNyinyi

How do you safe face with such a ridiculous proposal. Sometimes it's better to go missing and wait for the sack


Now what do I do with the selfies I had taken with the itonos i.e Locusts?
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