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murchr
#61 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 10:59:16 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,594
sumuni wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
[quote=Ngalaka]Is this Maraga's prelude to resignation!
Very telling...
CJ speech starts 0.43
But real lamentations start at 3.40....



So he is reporting Uhunye to us.Anataka tufanye nini?




seems visiting day has arrived. Lakini wadau wa sheria, you mean the President has no veto powers on JSC nominations? That he is to blindly just sign off whoever they put forward? where are the checks and balances on the JSC? On this, I daresay, the drafters of the constitution erred. The manner in which bills from parliament can be returned by the president for amendments with good reasons is what should have been envisioned in the constitution on JSC nominations. But until a constitutional amendment is effected on this clause, Uhuru's hands are tied.



He says there's evidence to show that the judges are not worth the job but he cant share this when asked.

He has no veto powers, the JSC which is a commission that employs judges has the absolute authority, ya rais ni kuapisha tu. He has some sort of representation, if they let him down during the nomination process shauri yake

The constitution is the Supreme law of the land and no one is above it even the president

Quote:

2) The Commission shall consist of -

(a) the Chief Justice, who shall be the chairperson of the Commission;
(b) one Supreme Court judge elected by the judges of the Supreme Court;
(c) one Court of Appeal judge elected by the judges of the Court of Appeal;
(d) one High Court judge and one magistrate, one a woman and one a man, elected by the members of the association of judges and magistrates;
(e) the Attorney-General;
(f) two advocates, one a woman and one a man, each of whom has at least fifteen years’ experience, elected by the members of the statutory body responsible for the professional regulation of advocates;
(g) one person nominated by the Public Service Commission; and
(h) one woman and one man to represent the public, not being lawyers, appointed by the President with the approval of the National Assembly.



"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#62 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 11:05:51 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,593
murchr wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
[quote=Ngalaka]Is this Maraga's prelude to resignation!
Very telling...
CJ speech starts 0.43
But real lamentations start at 3.40....



So he is reporting Uhunye to us.Anataka tufanye nini?




seems visiting day has arrived. Lakini wadau wa sheria, you mean the President has no veto powers on JSC nominations? That he is to blindly just sign off whoever they put forward? where are the checks and balances on the JSC? On this, I daresay, the drafters of the constitution erred. The manner in which bills from parliament can be returned by the president for amendments with good reasons is what should have been envisioned in the constitution on JSC nominations. But until a constitutional amendment is effected on this clause, Uhuru's hands are tied.



He says there's evidence to show that the judges are not worth the job but he cant share this when asked.

He has no veto powers, the JSC which is a commission that employs judges has the absolute authority, ya rais ni kuapisha tu.




I found this to be funny and wrong. Let them be sworn in by JSC smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Angelica _ann
#63 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:05:44 PM
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Posts: 11,593
How did this Kihara guy become AG??? Kenya going to the dogs pole pole!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Gathige
#64 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:26:41 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,151
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
[quote=Ngalaka]Is this Maraga's prelude to resignation!
Very telling...
CJ speech starts 0.43
But real lamentations start at 3.40....



So he is reporting Uhunye to us.Anataka tufanye nini?




seems visiting day has arrived. Lakini wadau wa sheria, you mean the President has no veto powers on JSC nominations? That he is to blindly just sign off whoever they put forward? where are the checks and balances on the JSC? On this, I daresay, the drafters of the constitution erred. The manner in which bills from parliament can be returned by the president for amendments with good reasons is what should have been envisioned in the constitution on JSC nominations. But until a constitutional amendment is effected on this clause, Uhuru's hands are tied.



He says there's evidence to show that the judges are not worth the job but he cant share this when asked.

He has no veto powers, the JSC which is a commission that employs judges has the absolute authority, ya rais ni kuapisha tu.




I found this to be funny and wrong. Let them be sworn in by JSC smile




The CJ is the "President" of the Supreme Court. He can swear the 41 judges like baba did to himself. Waiting for Uhuru to act is too far fetched.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
masukuma
#65 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:47:19 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,516
Location: Nairobi
Gathige wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
[quote=Ngalaka]Is this Maraga's prelude to resignation!
Very telling...
CJ speech starts 0.43
But real lamentations start at 3.40....



So he is reporting Uhunye to us.Anataka tufanye nini?




seems visiting day has arrived. Lakini wadau wa sheria, you mean the President has no veto powers on JSC nominations? That he is to blindly just sign off whoever they put forward? where are the checks and balances on the JSC? On this, I daresay, the drafters of the constitution erred. The manner in which bills from parliament can be returned by the president for amendments with good reasons is what should have been envisioned in the constitution on JSC nominations. But until a constitutional amendment is effected on this clause, Uhuru's hands are tied.



He says there's evidence to show that the judges are not worth the job but he cant share this when asked.

He has no veto powers, the JSC which is a commission that employs judges has the absolute authority, ya rais ni kuapisha tu.




I found this to be funny and wrong. Let them be sworn in by JSC smile




The CJ is the "President" of the Supreme Court. He can swear the 41 judges like baba did to himself. Waiting for Uhuru to act is too far fetched.

But he cannot pay them!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


But seriously - Wanjohi's job on this is not to scrutinize the list given to him. He does not choose the legislative arm not should he choose the Judiciary!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Queen
#66 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:25:48 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 325
Location: Britain
masukuma wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
[quote=Ngalaka]Is this Maraga's prelude to resignation!
Very telling...
CJ speech starts 0.43
But real lamentations start at 3.40....



So he is reporting Uhunye to us.Anataka tufanye nini?




seems visiting day has arrived. Lakini wadau wa sheria, you mean the President has no veto powers on JSC nominations? That he is to blindly just sign off whoever they put forward? where are the checks and balances on the JSC? On this, I daresay, the drafters of the constitution erred. The manner in which bills from parliament can be returned by the president for amendments with good reasons is what should have been envisioned in the constitution on JSC nominations. But until a constitutional amendment is effected on this clause, Uhuru's hands are tied.



He says there's evidence to show that the judges are not worth the job but he cant share this when asked.

He has no veto powers, the JSC which is a commission that employs judges has the absolute authority, ya rais ni kuapisha tu.




I found this to be funny and wrong. Let them be sworn in by JSC smile




The CJ is the "President" of the Supreme Court. He can swear the 41 judges like baba did to himself. Waiting for Uhuru to act is too far fetched.

But he cannot pay them!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


But seriously - Wanjohi's job on this is not to scrutinize the list given to him. He does not choose the legislative arm not should he choose the Judiciary!


Working with Jameson Wanjohi Kinyua Mureu can be very frustrating.
murchr
#67 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 7:44:46 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,594


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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PeterReborn
#68 Posted : Saturday, June 20, 2020 3:02:36 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 1,028
murchr wrote:



The LSK under Nelson Havi is doing a good job to hold the executive to account.He may not remove the AG but the pressure is good for accountability.
“Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. And the next morning, when I wake up, I am reborn.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
sqft
#69 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:30:41 PM
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Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 487
Location: Kenya
The circus in the courts continues. How can a judge rule that an international criminal and drug dealer is a diplomat who is above the law and even warn the police that they should let him back into the country?


https://nairobinews.nati...free-to-return-to-kenya

Quote:
Oumarou Moumouni Ali, the owner of the controversial Kiza Lounge in Nairobi’s Kilimani suburb, is free to return to Nairobi, nearly a year after he was deported over allegations of international crime links.

High Court Judge James Makau has ruled that Mr Ali is a diplomat and is therefore immune to arrest and deportation in the manner done last year.

The judge also warned Inspector-General of Police Hillary Mutyambai against violations of the law by his officers, arguing that his verdict should be a reminder that the courts will intervene.

“From the above, it should be a reminder to the Inspector-General of Police that this court will not tire in reminding (him) that the Constitution of Kenya is the supreme law. It has life and it has teeth.

Intelligence reports shared with the Immigration Department indicated that Mr Ali is part of an international drug ring that launders part of its ill-gotten wealth in Kenya using establishments like Kiza Lounge.

The businessman was bundled into a Niamey-bound plane on August 22, 2019.

And 11 days after his deportation, Interior Cabinet Secretary Fred Matiang’i declared the Nigerien a prohibited immigrant, shutting the door on a possible return.

At the time of deportation, Mr Ali had applied for Kenyan citizenship but told the High Court that his requests for a work permit extension and Kenyan citizenship are yet to be responded to.

One month after his deportation, the High Court ordered the closure of Kiza Lounge and its Galana Plaza neighbour, B Club, following a separate court petition by Kilimani residents who argued that the establishments were violating noise pollution laws in a residential area.

The Interior Ministry and the Immigration Department argued that they have a right to expel any unwanted individuals involved in money laundering and other transnational crimes that are contrary to Kenya’s national security.
What money can't do, more money can do.
Realtreaty
#70 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 8:59:24 AM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,080
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The dying DONKEY.
Nobody listens to this dying Donkey
REVIST is the KEY WORD that will be used on MARAGA today
What you do unto others will be done unto you!!!!smile smile smile
Angelica _ann
#71 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 9:17:47 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,593
Realtreaty wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The dying DONKEY.
Nobody listens to this dying Donkey
REVIST is the KEY WORD that will be used on MARAGA today
What you do unto others will be done unto you!!!!smile smile smile


Am amused you are laughing at what is happening to Judiciary and Maraga. He is earning a salary and will retire in January 2021 with paid benefits until RIP. What your so called revisit is doing is messing up judiciary and justice in Kenya, of course it is the common man who suffers at end of the day.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mpobiz
#72 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 9:43:37 AM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,027
Angelica _ann wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The dying DONKEY.
Nobody listens to this dying Donkey
REVIST is the KEY WORD that will be used on MARAGA today
What you do unto others will be done unto you!!!!smile smile smile


Am amused you are laughing at what is happening to Judiciary and Maraga. He is earning a salary and will retire in January 2021 with paid benefits until RIP. What your so called revisit is doing is messing up judiciary and justice in Kenya, of course it is the common man who suffers at end of the day.


He is the one who messed up the common man in the first place be disowning the first elections (with no evidence) and ordering a very expensive repeat elections.(80 billion)
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Angelica _ann
#73 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 9:50:09 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,593
mpobiz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The dying DONKEY.
Nobody listens to this dying Donkey
REVIST is the KEY WORD that will be used on MARAGA today
What you do unto others will be done unto you!!!!smile smile smile


Am amused you are laughing at what is happening to Judiciary and Maraga. He is earning a salary and will retire in January 2021 with paid benefits until RIP. What your so called revisit is doing is messing up judiciary and justice in Kenya, of course it is the common man who suffers at end of the day.


He is the one who messed up the common man in the first place be disowning the first elections (with no evidence) and ordering a very expensive repeat elections.(80 billion)


At a personal level, I think it is wrong to punish the masses because of differences in opinion with one man who will not even be affected at the end of it all.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mpobiz
#74 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 3:07:52 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,027
Angelica _ann wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The dying DONKEY.
Nobody listens to this dying Donkey
REVIST is the KEY WORD that will be used on MARAGA today
What you do unto others will be done unto you!!!!smile smile smile


Am amused you are laughing at what is happening to Judiciary and Maraga. He is earning a salary and will retire in January 2021 with paid benefits until RIP. What your so called revisit is doing is messing up judiciary and justice in Kenya, of course it is the common man who suffers at end of the day.


He is the one who messed up the common man in the first place be disowning the first elections (with no evidence) and ordering a very expensive repeat elections.(80 billion)


At a personal level, I think it is wrong to punish the masses because of differences in opinion with one man who will not even be affected at the end of it all.


I don't think uhuru is punishing the masses.he is just careful not to include known criminals in the judiciary. The JSC should not be left to run like a cartel. That's why I support the minimal constitutional changes in the BBI that can be made by parliament.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Angelica _ann
#75 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:20:29 PM
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CJ baby mama drama, whah Kenya!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Queen
#76 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:39:53 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
CJ baby mama drama, whah Kenya!!!


Complete with a birth certificate.
sumuni
#77 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:47:57 PM
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Why wait until it gets to the point it becomes a public fiasco. Or did the lady have irrational demands? Hapa SDA Maraga amechoma picha mbaya.
It is a curious fact that of all the illusions that beset mankind, none is quite as curious as that tendency to suppose that we are mentally and morally superior to those who differ from us in opinion.
Queen
#78 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:01:56 PM
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sumuni wrote:
Why wait until it gets to the point it becomes a public fiasco. Or did the lady have irrational demands? Hapa SDA Maraga amechoma picha mbaya.


Don't be too quick to judge the old man. Remember he is currently engaged in a fight against the deep state. Forging a Birth Certificate in +254 is as easy as drinking water.

The elephant in the room is, if the kid was born in 2014, WHY THE DRAMA NOW?
sqft
#79 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:15:09 PM
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Queen wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Why wait until it gets to the point it becomes a public fiasco. Or did the lady have irrational demands? Hapa SDA Maraga amechoma picha mbaya.


Don't be too quick to judge the old man. Remember he is currently engaged in a fight against the deep state. Forging a Birth Certificate in +254 is as easy as drinking water.

The elephant in the room is, if the kid was born in 2014, WHY THE DRAMA NOW?


Let everyone carry their cross. You never know what they do in the dark. Bedroom affairs are normally complex.
What money can't do, more money can do.
murchr
#80 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:56:10 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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Queen wrote:
sumuni wrote:
Why wait until it gets to the point it becomes a public fiasco. Or did the lady have irrational demands? Hapa SDA Maraga amechoma picha mbaya.


Don't be too quick to judge the old man. Remember he is currently engaged in a fight against the deep state. Forging a Birth Certificate in +254 is as easy as drinking water.

The elephant in the room is, if the kid was born in 2014, WHY THE DRAMA NOW?


Wenda wazimu ni wengi hii town.

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