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Why I Think Doing Business in Kenya is Not a Business
alma1
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:48:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,830
Location: hapo
I work with SME's...the real ones...Not those ones of top 100 of something or another.

Since Covid started...95% of these businesses have died. As in the young lady who's my neighbour who got small contracts to supply lunch to a few bankers, is gone. She couldn't pay her rent, she couldn't pay for bus fair...Actually had to give her Noah back to the bank after they came with 5 menacing men.

I didn't want to post this in the green section. Coz we know what happens there.

Yes, I hate Trump and won't vote for him even this time.

But, I'm here now.

Are we sooooo poor we can't think about saving our SME's?

SME's in Kenya employ 90% of the work force in this country.

I was talking to a few GM's last week and they've had to cut their wage bill by half TWICE.

As in the guy who was earning 60k got 30k then 15k.

Coz of Covid. Companies now have come to work 2 weeks then another team comes to work the next 2 weeks.

I have not a word from the gov't led by Uhuru Kenyatta. In fact he's a "bubu" wa nyumbani about this.

I have heard not a word fron Raila...

I have not a word from Ruto...

I wonder.

Coz, I'll confess. I don't like Trump but...there was a fund to keep my kasmall business in Massachussets paying for employees.

I don't like Boris, but there was a small business fund even now going.

How is a small business supposed to survive in Kenya? You would have expected this gov't to ask mortgage companies not to ask for their mortgages back. And give them a fund to deal with that. Extend their taxes or something.

You would have expected this gov't to delay tax payments and reduce electricity and fuel costs.

Nope...

All they did was say, we shall arrest you without a mask.

I keep on telling Murchr.

Until we get people who care about small businesses in this country we shall be f***ed.

I'm writing this for some of the friends I've met on Wazua for years, who's life has been f***ed up.

Covid did not kill the economy...The gov't of Kenya did.

Ni hayo tu.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:15:57 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,808
That money you are dreaming about is funding Raila Odinga and his BBI trips. Uhuru Kenyatta and team prefer to create more positions in govt because winner takes all somehow makes alma so mad at his neighbors that he decides to kill him.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:07:41 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,830
Location: hapo
murchr wrote:
That money you are dreaming about is funding Raila Odinga and his BBI trips. Uhuru Kenyatta and team prefer to create more positions in govt because winner takes all somehow makes alma so mad at his neighbors that he decides to kill him.


Tell me how it comes to the SME and I promise you I'll vote for Ruto.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:38:23 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,808
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
That money you are dreaming about is funding Raila Odinga and his BBI trips. Uhuru Kenyatta and team prefer to create more positions in govt because winner takes all somehow makes alma so mad at his neighbors that he decides to kill him.


Tell me how it comes to the SME and I promise you I'll vote for Ruto.



Uhuru controlled treasury does not understand what SME is. Forget. The remaining option we have is someone to champion Made in Kenya through the media. Like highlight all the Made in Kenya companies each day and educate Kenyans on how they are building the economy. This mindset that Kenya will prosper out of politicians should die. David Muir, the most watched person in the world has a Made in America segment in his news (which is not more than 30 mins) and has single handedly led Americans in to buying Made in America. HOWEVER Mitumba handlers should never benefit from this. Are Mutumba handlers considered to be SMEs?

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tony stark
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2020 3:35:52 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 7/8/2008
Posts: 894
alma1 wrote:
I work with SME's...the real ones...Not those ones of top 100 of something or another.

Since Covid started...95% of these businesses have died. As in the young lady who's my neighbour who got small contracts to supply lunch to a few bankers, is gone. She couldn't pay her rent, she couldn't pay for bus fair...Actually had to give her Noah back to the bank after they came with 5 menacing men.

I didn't want to post this in the green section. Coz we know what happens there.

Yes, I hate Trump and won't vote for him even this time.

But, I'm here now.

Are we sooooo poor we can't think about saving our SME's?

SME's in Kenya employ 90% of the work force in this country.

I was talking to a few GM's last week and they've had to cut their wage bill by half TWICE.

As in the guy who was earning 60k got 30k then 15k.

Coz of Covid. Companies now have come to work 2 weeks then another team comes to work the next 2 weeks.

I have not a word from the gov't led by Uhuru Kenyatta. In fact he's a "bubu" wa nyumbani about this.

I have heard not a word fron Raila...

I have not a word from Ruto...

I wonder.

Coz, I'll confess. I don't like Trump but...there was a fund to keep my kasmall business in Massachussets paying for employees.

I don't like Boris, but there was a small business fund even now going.

How is a small business supposed to survive in Kenya? You would have expected this gov't to ask mortgage companies not to ask for their mortgages back. And give them a fund to deal with that. Extend their taxes or something.

You would have expected this gov't to delay tax payments and reduce electricity and fuel costs.

Nope...

All they did was say, we shall arrest you without a mask.

I keep on telling Murchr.

Until we get people who care about small businesses in this country we shall be f***ed.

I'm writing this for some of the friends I've met on Wazua for years, who's life has been f***ed up.

Covid did not kill the economy...The gov't of Kenya did.

Ni hayo tu.


I agree SME are really hurting. But SME are also hurting because they are informal. How will the Government identify an informal SME vs briefcase Alma1?

There are also very many SME that have been doing booming business. Try getting Terrazo fundis in Nairobi for the past 3 months, utajua haujui. Alot of constructions SMEs are doing well.

Anyway what would you want the Government to do? Give out money?
Mike Ock
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:43:14 PM
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Joined: 1/22/2015
Posts: 672
Let's stop saying covid screwed us over. It is this LOCKDOWNS that screwed us up. It should have been obvious after a few weeks of this lockdown thing that it would lead to economic disaster. But governments persisted. We didn't lock down the world during the AIDS pandemic so that people don't sleep around! We just gave people the right information about the disease and how to avoid it and we continued with life
amorphous
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:51:18 PM
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Joined: 5/15/2019
Posts: 450
Location: planet earth
Mike Ock wrote:
Let's stop saying covid screwed us over. It is this LOCKDOWNS that screwed us up. It should have been obvious after a few weeks of this lockdown thing that it would lead to economic disaster. But governments persisted. We didn't lock down the world during the AIDS pandemic so that people don't sleep around! We just gave people the right information about the disease and how to avoid it and we continued with life


Correct. Remember how they shtuad the world that tens of millions would die in a few months? Wapi. It was all lies. A paltry 700 have died in Kenya in 6 months. Meaning you have more chance of dying from an accident like a coconut falling on your head than this covid ordinary homa hoax. LIFT ALL LOCKDOWNS YESTERDAY!!!
Emotions and ego are twin enemies of strategy
tinker
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 01, 2020 2:55:53 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 11/15/2010
Posts: 426
Location: Nairobi
amorphous wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Let's stop saying covid screwed us over. It is this LOCKDOWNS that screwed us up. It should have been obvious after a few weeks of this lockdown thing that it would lead to economic disaster. But governments persisted. We didn't lock down the world during the AIDS pandemic so that people don't sleep around! We just gave people the right information about the disease and how to avoid it and we continued with life


Correct. Remember how they shtuad the world that tens of millions would die in a few months? Wapi. It was all lies. A paltry 700 have died in Kenya in 6 months. Meaning you have more chance of dying from an accident like a coconut falling on your head than this covid ordinary homa hoax. LIFT ALL LOCKDOWNS YESTERDAY!!!


Kenya is a scam!.
Govt is the scammer.
....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
kayhara
#9 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2020 4:21:37 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,049
CHINA we should look at what china is doing to boast local business
last time I was there I learnt something, Govt has the money, see all the city renewals and govt housing low cost housing etc it should be done by kenya, in china a housing project goes and buys sand from that mtaani sand guy they need so much that the guy needs to find akina mwangi and maina trucks to go to mwingi to kiokos sand farm to suppy the project.

Then they go to a door guy at gikomba and tell him to supply doors for 10 floors of 5 three bedroom units thats like 300 doors, this goes on and it's broken down such that a guy with a small village door hinge factory is asked to supply 10,000 hinges, another is asked to make 1 million screws (not import).
I met newly minted millionaires from these kind of projects in china, what if SAJ ceramics was to supply all tiles for the nairobi and mombasa county gov projects, what if devki and doshi were to supply all hardware.
such action are felt upto village level,one question I always ask is why we need loans to do roads, when we have engineers, we have cement, we have materials, the labour is ours, we have idle NYS graduates, we even have a KDF engineering dept sitting idle, plus all the machinery sitting at NYS muthaiga and other areas.
To Each His Own
Much Know
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:11:22 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,474
Very correct bwana alma, what shall we do, wait for wazungu's to come help us or what? Sad
A New Kenya
essyk
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:34:25 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,464
Well let me thank you for the job which you did for me.
Save for pombe you are very good at your job- the traffic is amazing,needed another one up but you have been mia.Look for me.It's almost ready.

On this.. I think the service industry has suffered the most since it's dependent on people's actual presence to function.
But this should act as an eye opener.Think outside the box, take advantage of the present situation, change the way and quantities that you supply to fit in with the market trend. Problem is applying the same costs to a dying or fading market.
Many of us are also trained to think in a certain way only thus limiting ourselves.
Ni Mungu tu.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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