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IRAN v/s ISRAEL+USA WAR.
Nandwa
#61 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:32:30 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
It is feared that Iran's strategy mainly would be

1.to litter the strait of Hormuz with bombs to bring shipping to its knees.
2. To send missiles to Tel Aviv - most of which would be intercepted anyway.

By behaving that way, most of the world would unite against them.

Trump would have a perfect opportunity to effect regime change.


Planning a war takes time, (especially in the middle east) not the way Trump wants us to believe it can happen overnight.

Remember there will be UN discussions and resolutions. Of course Trump will belittle any UN resolution that will be against US actions and therein. Therein lies the problem coz he will go to way supported by few countries. It will likely be USA vs China (& Russia at the back).

Trump - a clown I don't support at all - and his administration are centred on striking Iran's nuclear program infrastructure - should Iran advance significantly in developing a bomb.

Such an operation does not involve a lot of warfare to execute.

Indeed any other US administration whether Republican or Democrat would strike Iran in such circumstances.

War with China, Russia, mmmmmmm......



Unanistua. That is a very shallow understanding of warfare, National & International Affairs as well as Geo-politics.

I will tell you again, and Again, nobody is attacking Iran. If that's what you are anticipating in earnest, sorry to disappoint you my brother.

Well, that may be so - for as long as their development of a nuclear bomb remains a mere posturing - for taunting purposes.

But on the other hand, I offer you a deal, IF they proceed to develop a nuclear weapon, they will for sure contend with Israel and US in a military operation.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Angelica _ann
#62 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2019 4:37:57 PM
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I know it doesn't matter but am with Iran on this. We cannot have one person bullying the whole world from Venezuela to China. smile
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kingfisher
#63 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:52:46 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
It is feared that Iran's strategy mainly would be

1.to litter the strait of Hormuz with bombs to bring shipping to its knees.
2. To send missiles to Tel Aviv - most of which would be intercepted anyway.

By behaving that way, most of the world would unite against them.

Trump would have a perfect opportunity to effect regime change.


Who is this most of the world you keep referring to? wake up man, people moved long time.

See what Turkey is doing?
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kingfisher
#64 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:00:13 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
I know it doesn't matter but am with Iran on this. We cannot have one person bullying the whole world from Venezuela to China. smile


It matters alot
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radiomast
#65 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:22:25 PM
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Nandwa wrote:


At least this looks like a serious take on the issue, that is worth engaging.
Of course the situation is problematic for UK, - more on diplomatic and PR outlook.
But things are critical for Iran.
The matter of Trump walking out on the nuclear deal is quite a different dimension. I am on recording calling Trump out on that.
Right now I am making an observation on how Tehran is doing business, and I see desperation.
One can't tell for sure how things will pan out going forward, but to fantasise that Russia would fight US or EU countries for Iran is laughable.
UK & EU have been sympathetic to Iran on the nuclear deal matter, but Iran is working very hard to turn the allies on that front into enemies.


I guess Nandwa has never heard of proxy wars which is what Russia does best. Russia will not engage the US directly. But they will be happy to send arms and equipment and provide covert assistance to America's enemies just to make things difficult for USA.

AlphDoti
#66 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:02:59 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
gk wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
Iran now on desperation mode!
Using a drone to buzz a US Military Ship, the drone is downed.
Seizing a UK flagged tanker - now risks EU countries deploying their military next to their coastline.
Arresting and sentencing to death of "CIA spies" - Iranian citizens!

You can't help but feel sorry for the UK. They're trying desperately to please the US at whose advise they captured the Iranian ship. Now Iran has done what they do best: hitting back! The UK can't release the ship without antagonising Trump yet they also have no muscle to wrestle Iran.
Things are quickly getting ugly for all but this is going to be Boris or Hunt's real test in the coming days. ..

At least this looks like a serious take on the issue, that is worth engaging.
Of course the situation is problematic for UK, - more on diplomatic and PR outlook.
But things are critical for Iran.
The matter of Trump walking out on the nuclear deal is quite a different dimension. I am on recording calling Trump out on that.
Right now I am making an observation on how Tehran is doing business, and I see desperation.
One can't tell for sure how things will pan out going forward, but to fantasise that Russia would fight US or EU countries for Iran is laughable.
UK & EU have been sympathetic to Iran on the nuclear deal matter, but Iran is working very hard to turn the allies on that front into enemies.

Desperation???? Iran is only getting bolder and bolder.

Several things you may need to know:

1. There's the small matter of the Hormuz Strait. Iran can easily shut down that strait, in a jiffy. And boom! Close to 30% of the worlds oil, mostly heading to China, will be blocked.

2. On that account alone, China wouldn't allow that to happen.


3. Russia?

Iran is essentially holding the World by the balls by virtue of that little geostrategic matter....forget about Nukes, that was simply a second layer of security. Iran can collapse the entire planet's economy. The Mother-of-all-strategic-defences is the Hormuz Strait.

Iran, is un-attackable, my friend.

I would imagine then that if Iran did that, they would be adding China as yet another enemy.

You don't get it. The moment that strait is closed, we'll be buying fuel na huko Ksh 1000. That's total collapse. Nobody can risk that......except Israel and its selfish jews.

@simonkabz you have said it in few words. Let me pick my bakora and go to mosque then respond more later...
simonkabz
#67 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2019 3:05:18 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
I know it doesn't matter but am with Iran on this. We cannot have one person bullying the whole world from Venezuela to China. smile


Many around the world seem to be with Iran on this. Online commentry speaks volumes......

Remember Iran recently downed a USN Global Hawk Drone worth Ksh 20 Billion........ that thing is the size of a Boeing 737. Trump immediately caught a fever and threatened to attack, followed by a quick withdrawal citing some lame excuses of sijui how many US soldiers might lose their lives in the altercation, yet we know the truth lies in the Strait of Hormuz. Iran would go down with it.

Iran is safe. The Strait of Hormuz is the "strategic Nuke" anybody would wish for.
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AlphDoti
#68 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:08:49 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
I know it doesn't matter but am with Iran on this. We cannot have one person bullying the whole world from Venezuela to China. smile

Many around the world seem to be with Iran on this. Online commentry speaks volumes......

Remember Iran recently downed a USN Global Hawk Drone worth Ksh 20 Billion........ that thing is the size of a Boeing 737. Trump immediately caught a fever and threatened to attack, followed by a quick withdrawal citing some lame excuses of sijui how many US soldiers might lose their lives in the altercation, yet we know the truth lies in the Strait of Hormuz. Iran would go down with it.

Iran is safe. The Strait of Hormuz is the "strategic Nuke" anybody would wish for.

My view on this is that, Uncle Same wants to attack Iran, on behalf of Israel, because they want Israel to rule the world. That is why all these wars are taking place. But they have to tell us lies, all the war since 911. And it was not the only lie.

You see, there is a moral foundation to the law of war and peace. That means you do not launch wars unless there is a just cause for it. Iran has not done anything. Iran has not attacked Israel. Iran has not launched any missiles on Israel. Iran is not wedging war on Israel. But in accordance to your Israeli law of war, which has an immoral foundation, they have the right to wedge war against a people unjustly. And so an attack on Iran would be unjust war. It would be an act of dhulm: wickedness.

Those who launch the attack would be a people who are committing monstrous sins. Those who are beating drums of war, and who are looking forward to the attack on Iran, that you are beating the drums of unjust war. When the attack takes place, you will be committing the same sin as those who are perpetrating the war.

Shame on you!

@nandwa, you are yourself a party of wickedness!
Nandwa
#69 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:21:38 PM
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Iran succumbing to Trumps armtwisting!
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Iran is ready for "just" negotiations but not if they mean surrender, Iran's President Hassan Rouhani said on Wednesday, without saying what talks he had in mind.
Rouhani seemed to be referring to possible negotiations with the United States. U.S. President Donald Trump withdrew from a landmark 2015 nuclear deal with Iran last year but has said he is willing to hold talks with the Islamic Republic.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Angelica _ann
#70 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:42:58 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
Iran succumbing to Trumps armtwisting!
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Iran is ready for "just" negotiations but not if they mean surrender, Iran's President Hassan Rouhani said on Wednesday, without saying what talks he had in mind.
Rouhani seemed to be referring to possible negotiations with the United States. U.S. President Donald Trump withdrew from a landmark 2015 nuclear deal with Iran last year but has said he is willing to hold talks with the Islamic Republic.


This is what Iran has been doing all along. Fake surrender to be seen as the good boys. Even the foreign affairs Minister said as much last week while in US.
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Nandwa
#71 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:16:20 PM
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Iran President Hassan Rouhani snubs Trump
https://www.nation.co.ke...8752-t0crrlz/index.html
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#72 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:19:01 AM
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Nandwa wrote:
Iran President Hassan Rouhani snubs Trump
https://www.nation.co.ke...8752-t0crrlz/index.html

That is okay. We need more guys who can stand up to the bully Uncle Sam and their monkey business of creating and supplying weapons to rebels. The other day Russia told them: don't mess with Nuclear Russia!
sparkly
#73 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 7:06:17 AM
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AlphDoti
#74 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 12:04:41 PM
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War is good business to weapon manufacturers. So if you can incite one, you're in business. Only gullible people do not see this.
kawi254
#75 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 12:10:04 PM
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An all out war with Iran would be a war on so many fronts

1. Iran funded Hezbollah Vs Israel that pulls in Lebanon + Arab & Muslim sympathy.
2. Iran allied Hamaz Vs Israel = Arab & Muslim sympathy.
3. Iraq & Syria Shia's controlled by Iran.
4. Strait of Homuz closed for the duration of war will see world oil prices sky rocket.
5. All Saudi oil facilities are within range of Iran's missiles.
6. Iran allied Yemen's Houthi rebels Vs Saudia Arabia.


AlphDoti
#76 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 12:10:33 PM
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This is what they have been doing for all wars. They faked Iraq weapons of mass destruction which later turned out it was lie. They faked 911. They faked Gadaffi case. They faked 1S1S issue in Syria... they keep faking to justify going into war with that particular country.
sparkly
#77 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 3:08:10 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:

War is good business to weapon manufacturers. So if you can incite one, you're in business. Only gullible people do not see this.


Also to take over the expansive Iranian oil reserves.
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hardwood
#78 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 3:18:23 PM
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sparkly wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

War is good business to weapon manufacturers. So if you can incite one, you're in business. Only gullible people do not see this.


Also to take over the expansive Iranian oil reserves.


But the Houthi rebels in Yemen have claimed responsibility for the attacks and even warned of more attacks. Why blame Iran?
AlphDoti
#79 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 3:42:15 PM
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hardwood wrote:
sparkly wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

War is good business to weapon manufacturers. So if you can incite one, you're in business. Only gullible people do not see this.

Also to take over the expansive Iranian oil reserves.

But the Houthi rebels in Yemen have claimed responsibility for the attacks and even warned of more attacks. Why blame Iran?

The other question: who is known all over to create, train, arm and fund rebels? I'm waiting to see the new name given to these rebels...
Kusadikika
#80 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:34:38 PM
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Iran will be attacked. Read between the lines. We are energy independent so we do not care about disrupting the oil trade market for the rest of the world by invading Iran.

The European Union and China are currently the worlds biggest buyers of oil. America can't go to war with them directly so you increase their costs of doing business by attacking Iran and increasing oil prices.

This guy is really serious about making America Great again and his strategy seams to be to throw roadblocks in others paths.
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