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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
Superprime1
#2041 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2019 11:37:03 AM
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Posts: 264
Ericsson wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichEconomics/status/1210450586371600384/photo/1

Looks like HF Group is rethinking its property development business after reviving HFDI less than a decade ago, hence the transfer.
obiero
#2042 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2020 10:46:13 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,788
Location: nairobi
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichEconomics/status/1210450586371600384/photo/1

Looks like HF Group is rethinking its property development business after reviving HFDI less than a decade ago, hence the transfer.

A stitch in time saves nine
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2043 Posted : Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:21:37 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichEconomics/status/1210450586371600384/photo/1

Looks like HF Group is rethinking its property development business after reviving HFDI less than a decade ago, hence the transfer.

A stitch in time saves nine



https://www.businessdail...07338-13t22gg/index.html
VituVingiSana
#2044 Posted : Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:28:32 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,150
Location: Nairobi
The hotel is set to be sold to recover a debt that the former Kaiti MP owes to Housing Finance.
https://www.businessdail...417284-69ng0p/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2045 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:07:01 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
[quote=VituVingiSana]The hotel is set to be sold to recover a debt that the former Kaiti MP owes to Housing Finance.
https://www.businessdail...17284-69ng0p/index.html[/quote]

Watu walipe madeni zao
obiero
#2046 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:21:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,788
Location: nairobi
The phoenix https://kenyanwallstreet...ts-losses-to-ksh-633000/
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
obiero
#2047 Posted : Thursday, July 02, 2020 9:21:43 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,788
Location: nairobi
Do not ignore
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2048 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2020 10:01:10 PM
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Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors
Angelica _ann
#2049 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2020 10:26:33 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,642
Ericsson wrote:
Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#2050 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2020 10:31:47 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection
Ericsson
#2051 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 7:50:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...590242-9no91v/index.html
kmucheke
#2052 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 11:26:22 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/16/2019
Posts: 129
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.
Ericsson
#2053 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 1:04:37 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding
kmucheke
#2054 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 1:16:19 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/16/2019
Posts: 129
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam
obiero
#2055 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 4:43:34 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,788
Location: nairobi
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2056 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 6:51:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14

Utaungua baba
obiero
#2057 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2020 9:40:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,788
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14

Utaungua baba

I doubt it..
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Impunity
#2058 Posted : Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:38:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,267
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14


Which year is 14 bob realizable?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ericsson
#2059 Posted : Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:35:36 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,676
Location: NAIROBI
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14


Which year is 14 bob realizable?

Same year as KQ open offer to minority shareholders
Angelica _ann
#2060 Posted : Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:38:01 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,642
Ericsson wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Housing Finance seeks ksh.1 billion bailout from new investors


Capital injection or bailout?


Bailout via a capital injection


https://www.businessdail...90242-9no91v/index.html[/quote]

Quote:
HF, whose top shareholder is insurer Britam Holdings with a 48.22 percent stake, says in its latest annual report that it is negotiating with investors for additional tier two capital.

The potential investors have been conducting due diligence on the lender.


Quote:
“The group is expecting a Sh1 billion tier two capital injection in 2020 which will take the ratio back to compliance,” the company says in the report.


I would love to see what the due diligence will reveal about the lender.
HF should reduce shareholding or offload completely, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty ahead.


HF or Britam should reduce shareholding

Sorryd'oh! , I mean't Britam

On my buy list.. Target exit price KES 14


Which year is 14 bob realizable?

Same year as KQ open offer to minority shareholders


At least this one has tangible assets and stock, better than KQ by far.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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