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Best Trees for a Tree Forest?
Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:47:18 PM
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Which trees are the best to grow for a chamaa with 3+ Acres in Maragwa, Central Kenya? The land has no river frontage but has a water well with good amounts of clean water. Group ready to wait for as much as ten years.
An Operational partner with great ideas also welcome (chamaa provides land plus part/full capital).
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
cmk
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:21:33 AM
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blue gum would be best in that area.. though in maragwa you are better off planting bananas and mangoes..ten years' worth of bananas and mangoes will be more than what you can get from the trees.
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nostoppingthis
#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:20:40 AM
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cmk wrote:
blue gum would be best in that area.. though in maragwa you are better off planting bananas and mangoes..ten years' worth of bananas and mangoes will be more than what you can get from the trees.


I thought this is illegal to grow...
cmk
#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:30:17 AM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
cmk wrote:
blue gum would be best in that area.. though in maragwa you are better off planting bananas and mangoes..ten years' worth of bananas and mangoes will be more than what you can get from the trees.


I thought this is illegal to grow...


some fellas are busilly filling their tu-acre plots with the tree.
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Pesa Nane
#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:17:22 PM
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cmk wrote:
blue gum would be best in that area.. though in maragwa you are better off planting bananas and mangoes..ten years' worth of bananas and mangoes will be more than what you can get from the trees.

Blue gum is illegal. Am told chiefs go from shamba to shamba uprooting.
Bananas and Maongoes are a plus BUT all members are engaged elsewhere.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:20:51 PM
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Any idea where tree seedling / treelings can be gotten?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
cmk
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:42:13 AM
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if blue gum is illegal then mukau tree is not and it's timber is of better quality than that of blue gum.

source-go to machakos town and ask for mukau trees
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specky
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:01:46 AM
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I hear that bamboo tree is the in thing.......just check it out and let us know your findings...good luck
Lolest!
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:32:42 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Any idea where tree seedling / treelings can be gotten?

Kenya Forest Service Muthaiga. They sell cloned eucalyptus at around 7 bob.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:50:36 AM
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Eucalyptus/Blue Gum DESTROYS the environment. It is illegal to plant it.

See the KEFRI website: http://www.kefri.org/treeseed.aspx

Before you plant, read:
http://wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13084

And this:
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=18656
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King G
#11 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:47:06 PM
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Blue gum will destroy the environment, go the horticultural way. better still weka greenhouse with a roof!
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Pesa Nane
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:09:32 PM
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cmk wrote:
if blue gum is illegal then mukau tree is not and it's timber is of better quality than that of blue gum.

source-go to machakos town and ask for mukau trees

@cmk, will check it outsmile . How many year to maturity? uses? (timber, makaa, poles?)
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:11:19 PM
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specky wrote:
I hear that bamboo tree is the in thing.......just check it out and let us know your findings...good luck

I've heard that as well but am not able to get first hand info. Anyone???
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:20:59 PM
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King G wrote:
Blue gum will destroy the environment, go the horticultural way. better still weka greenhouse with a roof!

That's an idea we have but difficulties in finding caretakers. Tried local vijana with an easier project but they are only interested in thiefing and 'kayfao' (kumi-kumi) That's why we are adopting the passive investment strategy until one or more of us are free.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Lolest!
#15 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:25:19 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
specky wrote:
I hear that bamboo tree is the in thing.......just check it out and let us know your findings...good luck

I've heard that as well but am not able to get first hand info. Anyone???

doing research on this too. I read somewhere in the net that some guy is growing seedlings in Kajiado. Looking forward to visiting him. The uses for Bamboo are many and varied but info is scarce in Kenya.
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cmk
#16 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 9:51:35 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
cmk wrote:
if blue gum is illegal then mukau tree is not and it's timber is of better quality than that of blue gum.

source-go to machakos town and ask for mukau trees

@cmk, will check it outsmile . How many year to maturity? uses? (timber, makaa, poles?)


high quality timber..its called african mahogany,takes ten-15 yrs to mature
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Pesa Nane
#17 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 12:54:01 PM
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cmk wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
cmk wrote:
if blue gum is illegal then mukau tree is not and it's timber is of better quality than that of blue gum.

source-go to machakos town and ask for mukau trees

@cmk, will check it outsmile . How many year to maturity? uses? (timber, makaa, poles?)


high quality timber..its called african mahogany,takes ten-15 yrs to mature

Excellent, thank you. Dec am on it.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#18 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 12:57:11 PM
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some guy was talking about a soft wood called 'mufariti' (hope i got name correctly). Any one with any info on it? maturity period, disease-free, usages...
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Njung'e
#19 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 1:23:47 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
some guy was talking about a soft wood called 'mufariti' (hope i got name correctly). Any one with any info on it? maturity period, disease-free, usages...


@Mbeca Inyanya,
"Mubariti" is your every day 'Mukima".Just another name but not to confuse you more,it's plain Grevillea (Robusta)
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Elder
#20 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 1:30:49 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
specky wrote:
I hear that bamboo tree is the in thing.......just check it out and let us know your findings...good luck

I've heard that as well but am not able to get first hand info. Anyone???

doing research on this too. I read somewhere in the net that some guy is growing seedlings in Kajiado. Looking forward to visiting him. The uses for Bamboo are many and varied but info is scarce in Kenya.

Also researching on this. Called the Kajiado guy (Kitili Farm) but had issues in communication so intend to go to the farm and check it out.

Some info:
Organic Farmer Magazine - Bamboo in Kenya
Kefri on Bamboo
Hortinews on Bamboo
PDF Bamboo resources
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