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Exchange Bar: Results forecast
xxxxx
#2141 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:45:37 PM
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 501
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.
littledove
#2142 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:21:32 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 7/1/2014
Posts: 790
Location: sky
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Ericsson
#2143 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:50:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.


Loss before tax ndio muhimu
Ericsson
#2144 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
Exchange Bar Forecast for FY 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 36.9 Actual 36.9
EQTY 33.1 Actual 31.4
COOP 20.6 Actual 20.7
NCBA 15.1 Actual 11.17 (13.3 before exceptional item)
I&M 12.4 Actual 14.6
SCBK 12.3 Actual 12.2
ABSA 12.2 Actual 10.75 (12.3 before one-off charges)
DTB 11.6 Actual 11.3
STANB 8.2 Actual 7.7
HFCK 0.047 Actual -0.137
obiero
#2145 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 6:17:52 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.

On the right track
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2146 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 6:24:10 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.

On the right track


Bandia firm
stoner
#2147 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:09:43 AM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 10/31/2017
Posts: 14
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.

On the right track


Bandia firm


Considering HF whistleblower Credit Director Kevin Isika won his court battle against the bank,over 10 dubious Directors and General Managers were "exited" from the organization,a total bandia firm
Ericsson
#2148 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 6:30:37 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.

On the right track


Expect another loss this year.
Britam will put it's stake up for sale soon
obiero
#2149 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:32:58 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK always the last has just released it's FY results today


Weka rink PS.

https://kenyanwallstreet.com/hf-group-posts-ksh110-million-net-loss-in-2019/
HF Group’s net loss narrowed to KSh110 million in 2019, an 82 percent improvement from KSh598 million net loss booked in 2018. The housing finance company cut its total operating expenses by 17 percent to KSh6.7 billion from KSh8.0 billion in 2018. HF Group reduced its workforce by 9% in 2018, an exercise that lowered operating expenses in 2019.

On the right track


Expect another loss this year.
Britam will put it's stake up for sale soon

Possible but unlikely
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Angelica _ann
#2150 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:19:23 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,597
How are the 1st quarter 2020 for banks?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
xxxxx
#2151 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:10:38 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 501
Angelica _ann wrote:
How are the 1st quarter 2020 for banks?


Exchange bar is in lock downLaughing out loudly d'oh!
obiero
#2152 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:07:40 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
xxxxx wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
How are the 1st quarter 2020 for banks?


Exchange bar is in lock downLaughing out loudly d'oh!

Tunakunywa online via Zoom.. Tough times
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
obiero
#2153 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 10:32:11 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2154 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 11:14:23 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional
obiero
#2155 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 11:54:08 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Angelica _ann
#2156 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:10:01 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,597
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well


Initial experience in SS was nasty, i support local expansion and deepening.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
VituVingiSana
#2157 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2020 7:08:30 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,089
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well


Initial experience in SS was nasty, i support local expansion and deepening.
Limited and competitive market. The region has many risks but there's more opportunity. It takes guts, money and patience.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2158 Posted : Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:08:06 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,763
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well


Initial experience in SS was nasty, i support local expansion and deepening.
Limited and competitive market. The region has many risks but there's more opportunity. It takes guts, money and patience.

Nationalism in the other states doesn't help. Remember the green one took 11 years to break even in TZ. 11 YEARS!
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2159 Posted : Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:27:53 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,557
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well


Initial experience in SS was nasty, i support local expansion and deepening.
Limited and competitive market. The region has many risks but there's more opportunity. It takes guts, money and patience.

Nationalism in the other states doesn't help. Remember the green one took 11 years to break even in TZ. 11 YEARS!


Tell them,Equity,NIC and CBA in Tanzania are still in loss making territory
VituVingiSana
#2160 Posted : Monday, April 27, 2020 2:54:32 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,089
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 9.2
EQTY 7.8
COOP 5.2
I&M 3.6
NCBA 3.3
SCBK 3.1
ABSA 3.0
DTB 2.8
STANB 1.9
HFCK -0.034
Equity, SCBK and Stanbic fairing worse off than the others.. HF should be bought out, preferably by COOP

Coop has decided to grow locally instead of regional

Often, it is better to practice trade in known territory.. Expansion can be rewarding but has its own risks. I wish COOP well


Initial experience in SS was nasty, i support local expansion and deepening.
Limited and competitive market. The region has many risks but there's more opportunity. It takes guts, money and patience.

Nationalism in the other states doesn't help. Remember the green one took 11 years to break even in TZ. 11 YEARS!


Tell them,Equity,NIC and CBA in Tanzania are still in loss making territory

It takes guts, money and patience.

1) Is Equity losing money in TZ? Please tell me what Equity has lost in TZ in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Not every year can be profitable but good firms make up for bad years. I await your answer.
2) Is Equity losing money in UG? Please tell me what Equity has lost in UG in 2017, 2018 and 2019. I await your answer.
3) Is Equity losing money in RW? Please tell me what Equity has lost in RW in 2017, 2018 and 2019. I await your answer.
4) DTB has been in UG and TZ for many, many years and is generally profitable. Patience and guts.
5) I&M is also (overall) profitable in TZ, RW and Mauritius. Patience and guts.

KCB doesn't have the benefits of GoK favoring it in TZ. No special treatment. In the markets where KCB doesn't have the implicit and explicit support of GoK, Equity is kicking KCB to the kerb.

NIC has performed poorly compared to its peers in Kenya. I used to be a fan but I admit I was overly optimistic vs peers like I&M, DTB and even CBA.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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