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Jubilee now abandons 10,000km road project
sitaki.kujulikana
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:12:06 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.
alma1
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:41:40 PM
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On a serious note, who thinks that Jubilee can deliver anything. They have to rebrand to become sijui JAPanese.

What has Jubilee done for you lately?


But they are good in hashtags. Selfies, perfect!

But I'm willing to be changed. Ohhh please tell me something that Jubilee has done that Kibaki did not start. Just one thing. Even their Olx award sijui for Huduma was started by Kibaki.

Lakini, you continue waiting for 47 stadiums and 10k roads.

I'm saying that as a citizen who knows, no one is ready for El Nino, only the tenderprenuers.

Now, bite me.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
nakujua
#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:27:23 PM
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looking back at the Kibaki years, its funny that the country had no opposition - plus whoever tried going against him just ended up looking stupid, I mean the man never answered back, he was just a very silent.

On the positive that allowed him to push through a good amount of visible development agendas especially roads and the free primary thing, on the negtive the guys who might have stollen during his term went to a large extent unnoticed, plus when the opposition joined him it was all the guys at the high table eating - sio kama siku hizi one team feels left out of the eating.
murchr
#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:34:13 PM
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If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Swenani
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:46:20 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.




If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
hardwood
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:30:37 AM
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alma1 wrote:
On a serious note, who thinks that Jubilee can deliver anything. They have to rebrand to become sijui JAPanese.

What has Jubilee done for you lately?


But they are good in hashtags. Selfies, perfect!

But I'm willing to be changed. Ohhh please tell me something that Jubilee has done that Kibaki did not start. Just one thing. Even their Olx award sijui for Huduma was started by Kibaki.

Lakini, you continue waiting for 47 stadiums and 10k roads.

I'm saying that as a citizen who knows, no one is ready for El Nino, only the tenderprenuers.

Now, bite me.


If only you could have read that link before going into overdrive ranting and payukaring ovyo ovyo, you would have known that the roads have not be abandoned. Rather the govt has abandoned an expensive funding model for the roads and settled for a cheaper one saving you billions in cash. Sometimes be doing some reading before hyperventilating about things you seem not to understand which makes you end up looking like a mad man.

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The annuity road financing plan has been ditched over concerns of inflated costs, in favour of an older, cheaper construction model.

Acting Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia told the Nation Monday that the decision to turn to the older model — Engineering, Construction and Procurement (EPC) — was arrived at after realising that accumulated costs per kilometre would average a staggering Sh300 million under the annuity programme.

The 10,000 kilometre road project, which was set for implementation in the next five years, was projected to cost the taxpayer Sh260 billion.

Under EPC, Mr Macharia said, road set up costs were lower at an average of Sh30 million per kilometre.

“The bids were too high (for the annuity programme). The average costs of building a road per kilometre came to more than Sh300 million. We realised that we cannot do much as a country if we go that route. We said we needed to change the concept from pure annuity programme to the old model of Engineering Procurement and Construction,” he said at his office.
FRM2011
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:07:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni


Eish boss, saa zingine ni vizuri kukubali. The annuity financing programme has been dropped in favour of the older model, EPC. We all know the annuity programme was going to address the funding challenge.

With the old model our broke gava is supposed to somehow finance the entire 10000km.

I like your optimism though.
dunkang
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:10:06 AM
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alma1 wrote:
On a serious note, who thinks that Jubilee can deliver anything. They have to rebrand to become sijui JAPanese.

What has Jubilee done for you lately.

Now, bite me.

THINGS JUBILEE STARTED THAT WERE NOT PLANNED BY KIBAKI

1. NYS Scandal (Though was there previously with Moi and Jomo)

2. Cyber Bullying critics

3. Killing the economy ( this may proceed to be worse than Moi's)

4.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

PeterReborn
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:59:31 AM
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FRM2011 wrote:
murchr wrote:
If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni


Eish boss, saa zingine ni vizuri kukubali. The annuity financing programme has been dropped in favour of the older model, EPC. We all know the annuity programme was going to address the funding challenge.

With the old model our broke gava is supposed to somehow finance the entire 10000km.

I like your optimism though.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Lakini hii kenya yetu ni ya ajabu.If the annuity programme costs 300000000 to tarmac 1 km then the total cost of the 10000 will be 10000*300000000 =shs 3,000,000,000,000
Tenderprenuers are killing this country.
“Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. And the next morning, when I wake up, I am reborn.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
PeterReborn
#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:28:18 AM
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Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.





smile smile
“Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. And the next morning, when I wake up, I am reborn.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
sitaki.kujulikana
#31 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:00:37 AM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.





smile smile

what is wrong with trying to improve my humble abode, a middle class wazuan has built a nice house for the grand ma with a thatched roof, just wanted to see if I can do the same for my house.

not many even bother to put up decent houses for the parents or grand parents so we should congratulate @Fyatu for a job well done.
AlphDoti
#32 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:00:28 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.




smile smile

what is wrong with trying to improve my humble abode, a middle class wazuan has built a nice house for the grand ma with a thatched roof, just wanted to see if I can do the same for my house.

not many even bother to put up decent houses for the parents or grand parents so we should congratulate @Fyatu for a job well done.

@sitaki.kujulikana, utajukikana tu kuwa wewe ni kijana mdogo acting like a teenager who thinks he knows everything!

You said "I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch".

That means you have not gone places. Find out where this is in Kenya and go ask them the fundi to do one for your grand-mother




Swenani
#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:29:44 PM
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dunkang wrote:
alma1 wrote:
On a serious note, who thinks that Jubilee can deliver anything. They have to rebrand to become sijui JAPanese.

What has Jubilee done for you lately.

Now, bite me.

THINGS JUBILEE STARTED THAT WERE NOT PLANNED BY KIBAKI

1. NYS Scandal (Though was there previously with Moi and Jomo)

2. Cyber Bullying critics

3. Killing the economy ( this may proceed to be worse than Moi's)

4.


5. Harrydre
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Fyatu
#34 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:30:30 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Kenya power guys put wire and installed a meter on my grandmothers grass thatched house in June this year and disappeared without connecting the electricity.

I have never seen a decent permanent house being roofed with thatch, connect me with the fundi who did the thatched roof for your grand ma (of course if he did a good job), I would love to try it on my house.





smile smile

what is wrong with trying to improve my humble abode, a middle class wazuan has built a nice house for the grand ma with a thatched roof, just wanted to see if I can do the same for my house.

not many even bother to put up decent houses for the parents or grand parents so we should congratulate @Fyatu for a job well done.


Don't get me wrong, i never built the house for grandma. It was built by the village fundi who has a penchant for 2nd generation onywaji. I doubt if at all i qualify to be middle class, but if shoping at tusky's can be used as a yardstick, then yes, iam middle class
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Swenani
#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:31:17 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
murchr wrote:
If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni


Eish boss, saa zingine ni vizuri kukubali. The annuity financing programme has been dropped in favour of the older model, EPC. We all know the annuity programme was going to address the funding challenge.

With the old model our broke gava is supposed to somehow finance the entire 10000km.

I like your optimism though.


36 bloggers
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
mwenza
#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:58:00 PM
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Swenani wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
murchr wrote:
If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni


Eish boss, saa zingine ni vizuri kukubali. The annuity financing programme has been dropped in favour of the older model, EPC. We all know the annuity programme was going to address the funding challenge.

With the old model our broke gava is supposed to somehow finance the entire 10000km.

I like your optimism though.


36 bloggers


I suspect the 36 bloggers are the second or even the third batch to be hired.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
murchr
#37 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:32:56 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Swenani wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
murchr wrote:
If you read the article, there's no where that it mentions Jubilee abandoning the project but anyway...endeleeni


Eish boss, saa zingine ni vizuri kukubali. The annuity financing programme has been dropped in favour of the older model, EPC. We all know the annuity programme was going to address the funding challenge.

With the old model our broke gava is supposed to somehow finance the entire 10000km.

I like your optimism though.


36 bloggers


I suspect the 36 bloggers are the second or even the third batch to be hired.


Na sasa.....ata kama kizungu imekuwa kizungumkuti.....how does abandoning one strategy become abandoning the project....lakini endeleeni I haven't said you should stop
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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FRM2011
#38 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:49:11 PM
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Guys from diaspora, rongai, have been holding on to to hope on this annuity financing thing. They had harassed CS Kamau on Twitter until he gave his word that the contract for dialling of magadi road would be awarded by June this year. Indeed on the Kenha website the road was under the first lot and appears top on the list under nairobi county.

And now this. The gava has gone back to the old system where you allocate a budget, design the road, procure and construct.

The poor residents of ongata rongai will have to wait for several years to get their road done. On average one takes 5 hours in traffic to and from work. It works out to 54 days in a year sitting in traffic. Or 14% of your life sitting in traffic.

Yet they voted in jubilee overwhelmingly. Am not sure whether to pity them at the betrayal or simply say ; serves you are right diasporans.
Othelo
#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:08:02 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Guys from diaspora, rongai, have been holding on to to hope on this annuity financing thing. They had harassed CS Kamau on Twitter until he gave his word that the contract for dialling of magadi road would be awarded by June this year. Indeed on the Kenha website the road was under the first lot and appears top on the list under nairobi county.

And now this. The gava has gone back to the old system where you allocate a budget, design the road, procure and construct.

The poor residents of ongata rongai will have to wait for several years to get their road done. On average one takes 5 hours in traffic to and from work. It works out to 54 days in a year sitting in traffic. Or 14% of your life sitting in traffic.

Yet they voted in jubilee overwhelmingly. Am not sure whether to pity them at the betrayal or simply say ; serves you are right diasporans.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
muganda
#40 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:10:46 PM
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Swenani wrote:
dunkang wrote:
alma1 wrote:
On a serious note, who thinks that Jubilee can deliver anything. They have to rebrand to become sijui JAPanese.

What has Jubilee done for you lately.

Now, bite me.

THINGS JUBILEE STARTED THAT WERE NOT PLANNED BY KIBAKI

1. NYS Scandal (Though was there previously with Moi and Jomo)

2. Cyber Bullying critics

3. Killing the economy ( this may proceed to be worse than Moi's)

4.


5. Harrydre



You can always learn something new everyday. Today I learnt that the problem is Populism (which I previously held dear). If democracy, its voters or leaders yield to populism, your country may struggle to progress. Populism is betrayed by its promises.

The correct answer - COMPETENCE
European Union are up against populism after the failed Greece (Syriza) experiment, and have succeeded for Cameron (Britain), Rajoy (Portugal), Renzi (Spain) etc. http://blogs.reuters.com/breaki...n-populism-can-be-tamed/

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