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Child custody - married parents
hardwood
#121 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:23:57 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
There is alot we can learn from the Obama story. The mother and stepdad should be allowed to raise the child without interference. Infact Obama only became interested in his roots in his adulthood (and was disappointed by what he learnt about his biological father). Otherwise he grew up as a very happy and successful child raised though raised without any influence or input from his biological dad.

Likewise in this case, the daughter should be raised without the biological dad stalking the family and being a nuisance. The daughter can go look for his biological dad in adulthood so as to satisfy her curiosity.





@Hardwood, here you just scored an own goal, Obama's case is a testament to the bond between a child and his biological parents.

Kama hutaki watoto wako shauri yako.


Obama's case is testament that a child doesn't have to be raised or supported by the biological father to be successful. It shows that the mum, step dad and maternal grandparents are enough to ensure success.
An election is never about the votes cast for a candidate. It's all about the transmission of the voting results, i.e. forms, stamps, signatures, and all other mumbo jumbo. (Maraga 2017)
Impunity
#122 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:26:10 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
At about age 10, Obama left the Step Father's and went to live with his grandparents. From then on, there was almost nil contact with the step dad. His mother kept updating the real Father of the boys development.

Credit goes to the Mum - big time,- for the responsible way she handled the situation.
Always acting in the best interst of the boy.


There are always attempts to erase Obama's stepdad from Obama's life history and put all focus on Obama snr. How do you "delete" the man who raised Obama since he was 2yrs and was married to Obama's mother for 15yrs?

Fact is that:

1) Obama was born in 1961 and biological parents separated shortly.
2) Obama's step dad met Obama's mother in 1963 and were officially married from 1965 upto 1980 when they divorced.
3) From 1963-1966 the new family lived in the US when step dad was studying.
4) 1966 stepdad took govt job in Indonesia.
5) In 1967 step dad moved his family from US to Indonesia.
6) Obama was enrolled in local Indonesian language school, but mum was doing home schooling in english.
7) 1970 - Obama's sister Maya Soetoro-Ng was born.
8) In 1971-1979 Obama went to US to study in an english school and attended private school and lived with grandparents. Step dad and mum were paying fees.
9) Obama met his biological dad only once in 1971 in the US at the airport when dad was on transit.
10) From 1972-1975 Obama's mom and sister returned to the US to undertake masters degree and Obama lived with mum and sis.
11) Mother and sis returned to Indonesia for mum to do field work while Obama remained in US to continue with studies.
12) Mother spent next 20yrs in Indonesia
13) Mum divorced step dad in 1980.
14) Stepdad remarried 1981.
15. Mum got PhD in 1992.
16) Obama mum died 1995.



Where is @Obama's step sister? She is not named anywhere ever since Obama became POTUS.

d'oh!
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hardwood
#123 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:44:14 PM
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Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
At about age 10, Obama left the Step Father's and went to live with his grandparents. From then on, there was almost nil contact with the step dad. His mother kept updating the real Father of the boys development.

Credit goes to the Mum - big time,- for the responsible way she handled the situation.
Always acting in the best interst of the boy.


There are always attempts to erase Obama's stepdad from Obama's life history and put all focus on Obama snr. How do you "delete" the man who raised Obama since he was 2yrs and was married to Obama's mother for 15yrs?

Fact is that:

1) Obama was born in 1961 and biological parents separated shortly.
2) Obama's step dad met Obama's mother in 1963 and were officially married from 1965 upto 1980 when they divorced.
3) From 1963-1966 the new family lived in the US when step dad was studying.
4) 1966 stepdad took govt job in Indonesia.
5) In 1967 step dad moved his family from US to Indonesia.
6) Obama was enrolled in local Indonesian language school, but mum was doing home schooling in english.
7) 1970 - Obama's sister Maya Soetoro-Ng was born.
8) In 1971-1979 Obama went to US to study in an english school and attended private school and lived with grandparents. Step dad and mum were paying fees.
9) Obama met his biological dad only once in 1971 in the US at the airport when dad was on transit.
10) From 1972-1975 Obama's mom and sister returned to the US to undertake masters degree and Obama lived with mum and sis.
11) Mother and sis returned to Indonesia for mum to do field work while Obama remained in US to continue with studies.
12) Mother spent next 20yrs in Indonesia
13) Mum divorced step dad in 1980.
14) Stepdad remarried 1981.
15. Mum got PhD in 1992.
16) Obama mum died 1995.



Where is @Obama's step sister? She is not named anywhere ever since Obama became POTUS.

d'oh!


She is a professor at the University of Hawaii. She also campaigned for Obama.



An election is never about the votes cast for a candidate. It's all about the transmission of the voting results, i.e. forms, stamps, signatures, and all other mumbo jumbo. (Maraga 2017)
Shak
#124 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:10:22 PM
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Step parenting is one of the hardest things you can do in this life. Kudos to those who have figured it out
hardwood
#125 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:11:58 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:


I thought Obama was raised by his grandparentsShame on you Shame on you Infact Obama barely refers to his step father as an influencer anywhere.



Obama devoted a whole chapter in his book "Dreams from my father" to talk about his step father and the influence he had on his life.

http://foreignpolicy.com...ms-from-his-stepfather/


An election is never about the votes cast for a candidate. It's all about the transmission of the voting results, i.e. forms, stamps, signatures, and all other mumbo jumbo. (Maraga 2017)
tnai9
#126 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:47:21 PM
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hardwood wrote:


9) Obama met his biological dad only once in 1971 in the US at the airport when dad was on transit.
- From this statement, i deduce that;

The fact that he would go all the way to just meet his biological father at the airport, to just get a glimpse of him, is a very powerful statement that blood is very very thick and cannot be replaced by anything.

A bond between a dad and his daughter cannot be replaced by imitations, especially if the biological father hasn't mistreated the daughter.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
hardwood
#127 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:52:38 PM
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tnai9 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


9) Obama met his biological dad only once in 1971 in the US at the airport when dad was on transit.
- From this statement, i deduce that;

The fact that he would go all the way to just meet his biological father at the airport, to just get a glimpse of him, is a very powerful statement that blood is very very thick and cannot be replaced by anything.

A bond between a dad and his daughter cannot be replaced by imitations, especially if the biological father hasn't mistreated the daughter.


Hey. Just call the village elders and you go take your daughter and then raise her the way you want. Problem solved.
An election is never about the votes cast for a candidate. It's all about the transmission of the voting results, i.e. forms, stamps, signatures, and all other mumbo jumbo. (Maraga 2017)
wukan
#128 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:57:46 PM
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Shak wrote:
Step parenting is one of the hardest things you can do in this life. Kudos to those who have figured it out


It's a hard thankless job. It takes special kind of men/women to be good step parents. Maximum respect to those who take such roles.
tnai9
#129 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:34:34 PM
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hardwood wrote:

Hey. Just call the village elders and you go take your daughter and then raise her the way you want. Problem solved.


The lady's family is bitter the guy dumped their girl so are on a kind of revenge mission and are hell bent on frustrating him. He has explored that channel and think they never gave him the date to go with his elders. Only the court think will save him
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
TSi
#130 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:52:50 PM
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I also think tnai9's "friend" is tnai9 himself. Why cant tnai9 help his friend open a wazua login then we can hear direct from him?
Anyway, let him go the court way, so that even if he fails to get custody at least he will tell the daughter in future that he fought for her with all he had na atasamehewa.
Angelica _ann
#131 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:14:05 PM
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wukan wrote:
Shak wrote:
Step parenting is one of the hardest things you can do in this life. Kudos to those who have figured it out


It's a hard thankless job. It takes special kind of men/women to be good step parents. Maximum respect to those who take such roles.

The child/children always turn against you in late teens/twenties plus and become remorseful in their forties after realizing their folly and how good/great you were to them. Bure kabisa.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
hardwood
#132 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:43:28 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
wukan wrote:
Shak wrote:
Step parenting is one of the hardest things you can do in this life. Kudos to those who have figured it out


It's a hard thankless job. It takes special kind of men/women to be good step parents. Maximum respect to those who take such roles.

The child/children always turn against you in late teens/twenties plus and become remorseful in their forties after realizing their folly and how good/great you were to them. Bure kabisa.


In another post hapo juu, I have said it could cost you some 3m to raise the kid then the kid rebels and turns against you.
An election is never about the votes cast for a candidate. It's all about the transmission of the voting results, i.e. forms, stamps, signatures, and all other mumbo jumbo. (Maraga 2017)
Obi 1 Kanobi
#133 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:22:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
wukan wrote:
Shak wrote:
Step parenting is one of the hardest things you can do in this life. Kudos to those who have figured it out


It's a hard thankless job. It takes special kind of men/women to be good step parents. Maximum respect to those who take such roles.

The child/children always turn against you in late teens/twenties plus and become remorseful in their forties after realizing their folly and how good/great you were to them. Bure kabisa.


In another post hapo juu, I have said it could cost you some 3m to raise the kid then the kid rebels and turns against you.


The joy in parenthood is not to raise kids so they thank you, the joy is in preparing them for success and that they pursue and achieve their dreams as grown ups.

Them thanking and taking care of you later in life is just an added bargain.

Don't quantify the cost of a good education coz it is still way cheaper than illiteracy or a poor education and upbringing
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
hardwood
#134 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:21:59 PM
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