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ngapat
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:40:11 PM
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A mobile app that allows peer to peer lending and borrowing. I was looking at it as an investment option to put in some cash for lending. Lending for 10 days gives 8% returns but you are given 55% the 8% and the rest goes to ubapesa. Ive put 1k to test and see how it works. Anyone tried it?
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:56:59 PM
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ngapat wrote:
A mobile app that allows peer to peer lending and borrowing. I was looking at it as an investment option to put in some cash for lending. Lending for 10 days gives 8% returns but you are given 55% the 8% and the rest goes to ubapesa. Ive put 1k to test and see how it works. Anyone tried it?


works as quoted
winmak
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:04:23 PM
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Who is the regulating authority?
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mlennyma
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:20:00 PM
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ngapat wrote:
A mobile app that allows peer to peer lending and borrowing. I was looking at it as an investment option to put in some cash for lending. Lending for 10 days gives 8% returns but you are given 55% the 8% and the rest goes to ubapesa. Ive put 1k to test and see how it works. Anyone tried it?

they are paying withholding tax and insurance meaning the authorities and cbk knows. ..I have downloaded the application ready to test with about 5k
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:44:19 PM
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@ngapat and @mlennyma please do share test results with fellow wazuans.
Stiffler
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:52:14 PM
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ngapat
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:07:44 PM
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Stiffler wrote:
The Rate of Return though is a bit low....
Roughly 5% p.a if you invest throughout the year

How did you arrive at that %
Lending rates are as follows
8% for 10 days
9% for 20 days
10% for 30 days.
If they give you 50% of the interest, you atleast get 5% interest per month. That translates to 60% p.a if you keep lending throughout the year, without factoring compounding.
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VyaBureSiachi
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:14:56 PM
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So it's just digital loan sharking?
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ngapat
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:19:38 PM
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https://kenyanwallstreet...ng-lending-app-in-kenya/
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ngapat
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:22:02 PM
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Yeah, digital shylocking but if there is money to be made with manageable risks, then lets ride
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tandich
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:13:12 PM
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There's another one called Pezesha.

How do they handle defaults?
Corleone
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:54:23 PM
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tandich wrote:
There's another one called Pezesha.

How do they handle defaults?


In most, you assume the Lender's risk. I've seen Uba Pesa has a 2 month money back guarantee in case of default.
Stiffler
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:45:22 PM
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ngapat wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
The Rate of Return though is a bit low....
Roughly 5% p.a if you invest throughout the year

How did you arrive at that %
Lending rates are as follows
8% for 10 days
9% for 20 days
10% for 30 days.
If they give you 50% of the interest, you atleast get 5% interest per month. That translates to 60% p.a if you keep lending throughout the year, without factoring compounding.


Weird.
Corrected my Statement some minutes before you quoted me.
Yet your quote is referring to a Prior state...
Speculz
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:46:27 PM
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Where do they compute that credit score from?
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winmak
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 8:56:53 PM
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ngapat wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
The Rate of Return though is a bit low....
Roughly 5% p.a if you invest throughout the year

How did you arrive at that %
Lending rates are as follows
8% for 10 days
9% for 20 days
10% for 30 days.
If they give you 50% of the interest, you atleast get 5% interest per month. That translates to 60% p.a if you keep lending throughout the year, without factoring compounding.


Any ‘investment ‘ that returns weirdly higher than market rates......
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
washiku
#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:52:03 AM
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ngapat wrote:
Yeah, digital shylocking but if there is money to be made with manageable risks, then lets ride


All these Mobile lending Apps, including akina Mshwari, KCB Mpesa, Tala, Branch and the rest are basically digital shylocks; just like the way the so called MFIs too are more of registered shylocks.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:28:59 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
ngapat wrote:
A mobile app that allows peer to peer lending and borrowing. I was looking at it as an investment option to put in some cash for lending. Lending for 10 days gives 8% returns but you are given 55% the 8% and the rest goes to ubapesa. Ive put 1k to test and see how it works. Anyone tried it?

they are paying withholding tax and insurance meaning the authorities and cbk knows. ..I have downloaded the application ready to test with about 5k

GoK doesn't act like one entity! You can be paying everything then CBK claims they have no knowledge of the company

Impressive idea though. This segment is huge. There are very many hungry Kenyans looking for small fixes
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Lolest!
#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:36:07 AM
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Speculz wrote:
Where do they compute that credit score from?

From some source who works with one of those popular mobile loan companies, they analyse data on a borrower's phone: SMSs etc. Certain keywords or SMS received from other lenders increase risk. They don't like gamblers.
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washiku
#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 11:42:07 AM
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This is a very interesting concept. You can even decide who to lend to and who to borrow from.
grolut
#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:47:36 PM
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I've tried it with just 500 bob, got 22 bob interest for a 10 day loan after taxes. The loans have been repaid twice, I'm planning to increase it to maybe 5k and see how it goes. I read a reply to a comment on Google Play that they guarantee payment 60 days after default, not sure how they do that...breaking legs ama insurance?
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