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Ken Okoth,MP Kibra..It shall be well
Amores
#341 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 6:49:45 PM
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Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.
I am happy
murchr
#342 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 6:56:34 PM
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Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


Was he living in Kenya in 2017?

Registration is a continuous process by law.

Going by demographics he might just have it.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Amores
#343 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 7:29:56 PM
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murchr wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


Was he living in Kenya in 2017?

Registration is a continuous process by law.

Going by demographics he might just have it.


Where was he living? I don't live in Kenya but I am a registered voter .
I am happy
murchr
#344 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 7:31:43 PM
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Amores wrote:
murchr wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


Was he living in Kenya in 2017?

Registration is a continuous process by law.

Going by demographics he might just have it.


Where was he living? I don't live in Kenya but I am a registered voter .


How?

He was living in Italy
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Amores
#345 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 7:45:35 PM
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I came home, I checked into a registration centre and registered myself. It is a continuous exercise and I felt I needed to fulfill my civic duty. I didn't vote though, but I campaigned and left just before voting.

So for me it is surprising to hear someone wasn't registered until few week ago, is registered in a different constituency ( doesn't matter what the law says, he will not be able to cast a vote for himself ) but wants to run for office and hopes to be take seriously.
I am happy
murchr
#346 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 7:58:50 PM
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Amores wrote:
I came home, I checked into a registration centre and registered myself. It is a continuous exercise and I felt I needed to fulfill my civic duty. I didn't vote though, but I campaigned and left just before voting.

So for me it is surprising to hear someone wasn't registered until few week ago, is registered in a different constituency ( doesn't matter what the law says, he will not be able to cast a vote for himself ) but wants to run for office and hopes to be take seriously.



The point is you did it when you could, he also did the same, registered when he could. Both of you are eligible voters by the Kenyan law.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#347 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 8:03:39 PM
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Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?
FRM2011
#348 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 7:01:28 AM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,383

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.
freiks
#349 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:03:45 AM
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FRM2011 wrote:

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.


This is true,but lets see whats up the sleeve. I would put my money on Owalo to win this. Meanwhile there is firefighting somewhere after the fallout

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Amores
#350 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:39:38 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.
I am happy
thuks
#351 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:44:32 AM
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Amores wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.

There's no political "representation" in kenya. Discuss
I care!
hardwood
#352 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:56:43 AM
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But I do think that mariga will win coz he is popular in his unique way. He is a role model for many football-loving youth in the area. He also has handshake and govt support.

Owalo has nothing to offer except being a former raila man turned enemy. That makes it even worse for him.

Imran can only use his bros name and bank on ODM party support.
Gathige
#353 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:57:15 AM
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Amores wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.


Except MCAs, most of the so called people's representatives do not live in the areas they purport to represent.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Amores
#354 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:48:28 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Amores wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.


Except MCAs, most of the so called people's representatives do not live in the areas they purport to represent.


This needs to STOP!It is a question of legitimacy actually.
I am happy
hardwood
#355 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:09:37 PM
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Amores wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Amores wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.


Except MCAs, most of the so called people's representatives do not live in the areas they purport to represent.


This needs to STOP!It is a question of legitimacy actually.

Even baba never lived in kibera. He was an opportunist.
T-Bag
#356 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14:54 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.


Imran took it hands down you say?

"Yesterday, two senior party officials confirmed that Raila returned the funds on Wednesday to Dagoretti High School Principal Peter Orero, who emerged second, Ben Musungu, John Otieno, Chris Odhiambo and Tony Ogola. Others who were refunded were Stephen Okello, Brian Owino, Reuben Ojijo and Eric Obayi"- The standard

This group will obviosly join team hustler ....indirectly....better still hasora can adopt dem orphans

I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
Kusadikika
#357 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:57:19 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.


Imran took it hands down you say?

"Yesterday, two senior party officials confirmed that Raila returned the funds on Wednesday to Dagoretti High School Principal Peter Orero, who emerged second, Ben Musungu, John Otieno, Chris Odhiambo and Tony Ogola. Others who were refunded were Stephen Okello, Brian Owino, Reuben Ojijo and Eric Obayi"- The standard

This group will obviosly join team hustler ....indirectly....better still hasora can adopt dem orphans



This Luhya votes in Kibera hypothesis has been tested before by one Stanley Livondo. It failed miserably.
murchr
#358 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:04:23 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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Kusadikika wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.


Imran took it hands down you say?

"Yesterday, two senior party officials confirmed that Raila returned the funds on Wednesday to Dagoretti High School Principal Peter Orero, who emerged second, Ben Musungu, John Otieno, Chris Odhiambo and Tony Ogola. Others who were refunded were Stephen Okello, Brian Owino, Reuben Ojijo and Eric Obayi"- The standard

This group will obviosly join team hustler ....indirectly....better still hasora can adopt dem orphans



This Luhya votes in Kibera hypothesis has been tested before by one Stanley Livondo. It failed miserably.



Let it fail again.

Why are they so scared if they have this in their bags. Someone has rushed to court
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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AlphDoti
#359 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:24:08 PM
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murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I don't know why people are arguing about the legality of mariga's candidature. Truth be told, tangatanga saw a loophole in the law and went for it.

Now to politics 101.

During the rally where kris darlin knelt before baba, imran okoth was heckled and couldn't adress the crowds. But on voting day, he took it hands down. The secret ; network of loyal ground supporters.

Even if wsr pours 1B shillings in Kibra, he has zero chance of creating this critical network for mariga. There is nothing like a luhya vote. You work it bottom-up. Tim wanyonyi is virtually unbeatable in westlands (read kangemi). Once saw him engaging with women running a table banking group in kangemi. Dude knows his game. He has 1,000s of women who would take a bullet for him. Simba arati started as a youth mobilizer in kawangware before becoming a councillor. Now he is MP for lavington/kilimani (read kawangware).

But the nest two months, kibra will rain money like never before.

Imran took it hands down you say?

"Yesterday, two senior party officials confirmed that Raila returned the funds on Wednesday to Dagoretti High School Principal Peter Orero, who emerged second, Ben Musungu, John Otieno, Chris Odhiambo and Tony Ogola. Others who were refunded were Stephen Okello, Brian Owino, Reuben Ojijo and Eric Obayi"- The standard

This group will obviosly join team hustler ....indirectly....better still hasora can adopt dem orphans

This Luhya votes in Kibera hypothesis has been tested before by one Stanley Livondo. It failed miserably.

Let it fail again.

Why are they so scared if they have this in their bags. Someone has rushed to court

@FRM2011, I was in Nairobi this weekend, and I spoke to a few wazees and vijanas about Kibra thing... one of them told me something very amusing: ati kula kwa huyu, na kura kwa yule Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Queen
#360 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:30:21 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Amores wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Amores wrote:
Sijaelewa ni nini Mariga anataka hapa . So this man lives in Kenya, has never registered as voter, registered last minute so that he can run in Kibra and he expected to be taken seriously ? Hii ni ujinga.Kibra people should teach him a lesson.


The problem is our laws. Hapo juu kwa hii thread i suggested that we go back to the old system where for one vie for a seat, he would have to be a resident of the area and also own property within that area. That way we would eliminate political tourists and opportunists and also elect people who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the area they have been elected as leaders. Right now people living in karen, runda etc want to represent kibera, mathare etc and that does not make sense. One must be a resident of the locality that he wants to represent. Or would you elect a stranger to be the leader of your estate or gated community or village?


I think someone should be embarrassed for wanting to represent an area/people where he doesn't reside nor know their issues. Hapa I agree with you.


Except MCAs, most of the so called people's representatives do not live in the areas they purport to represent.


This needs to STOP!It is a question of legitimacy actually.

Even baba never lived in kibera. He was an opportunist.


Baba has never been the MP for Kibra. He was always the MP for the larger Langata Constituency. His home in Karen is domiciled in the larger Langata Constituency. And yes, Kibera was in Langata Constituency.
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