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KenGen HY 2019
KaunganaDoDo
#541 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 1:47:26 PM
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sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kengen share price still on upward trend.
It might peak at ksh.7 per share

heavy foreign buys today, the only stock with net inflow as per now

It should be trading at ksh.8


Why? Any news apart from AG appointment?


6.08 touched

the rally is on!, posibility of two dividends this year 0.40 for 2019 and 0.50 for 2020


The Chances for dividend are Highly slim. almost zero at 95% confidence level.


Make your words soft,you might be forced to eat them.


Its not meant to scare you but to inform you. Help you make optimal decision in market full of lemons with Information Asymmetry


What is the source of your information? You can only inform with credible sources.


Take what pleases you and leave the rest. Even St Paul tells Timothy...A time is coming, and is already here, when people will turn away from wise counsel and the truth and run to false teachers who will tell them only what they are willing to hear
sparkly
#542 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 4:45:14 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,889
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kengen share price still on upward trend.
It might peak at ksh.7 per share

heavy foreign buys today, the only stock with net inflow as per now

It should be trading at ksh.8


Why? Any news apart from AG appointment?


6.08 touched

the rally is on!, posibility of two dividends this year 0.40 for 2019 and 0.50 for 2020


The Chances for dividend are Highly slim. almost zero at 95% confidence level.


Make your words soft,you might be forced to eat them.


Its not meant to scare you but to inform you. Help you make optimal decision in market full of lemons with Information Asymmetry


What is the source of your information? You can only inform with credible sources.


Take what pleases you and leave the rest. Even St Paul tells Timothy...A time is coming, and is already here, when people will turn away from wise counsel and the truth and run to false teachers who will tell them only what they are willing to hear


It has nothing to do with faith or my pleasure. It's either there is a dividend or not. If you say there is none, you better cite your sources so that we know if to take you seriously or not.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#543 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:02:57 PM
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Location: NAIROBI
https://www.standardmedi...-debts-jolt-kenya-power
According to the article there is a mention of payments to kengen by kplc been reviewed upwards squeezing kplc profit margins
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
KaunganaDoDo
#544 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2020 10:35:17 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001378820/five-quit-as-governance-crisis-huge-debts-jolt-kenya-power
According to the article there is a mention of payments to kengen by kplc been reviewed upwards squeezing kplc profit margins


These are just journalists misrepresentation of facts. They write jumbled up stories
FUNKY
#545 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:02:15 AM
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Ericsson
#546 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:52:53 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
KaunganaDoDo
#547 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:01:42 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.


its been around for discussion but its a dead end
sparkly
#548 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:24:36 AM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.


its been around for discussion but its a dead end


I fail to see the benefits of floating panels vis a vis free standing panels since availability of land and sunshine hours is not an issue in most of Kenya.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#549 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:44:58 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,206
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.


its been around for discussion but its a dead end

I fail to see the benefits of floating panels vis a vis free standing panels since availability of land and sunshine hours is not an issue in most of Kenya.

I like the idea if it is feasible.

1) Reduces evaporation of water from the dam. There's a YouTube video of canals covered with solar panels in India that also does so.

2) Use the same infrastructure to evacuate power vs building a new Transmission line from a remote place.

3) Solar power during the day. Hydro at night. This is important when there is a drought.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#550 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:01:12 AM
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Posts: 7,889
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.


its been around for discussion but its a dead end

I fail to see the benefits of floating panels vis a vis free standing panels since availability of land and sunshine hours is not an issue in most of Kenya.

I like the idea if it is feasible.

1) Reduces evaporation of water from the dam. There's a YouTube video of canals covered with solar panels in India that also does so.

2) Use the same infrastructure to evacuate power vs building a new Transmission line from a remote place.

3) Solar power during the day. Hydro at night. This is important when there is a drought.


Noted but
1. To reduce evaporation, shade balls might be cheaper;
2. Infrastructure - the remote places are underserved by power infrascture plus all the main power evacuation lines pass through the remote places to reach urban centres.
3. Other methods arr more effective mitigate drought like reforestation and reclaiming water towers from encroachment.
4. Plan will interfere with local economic activities like fishing
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#551 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:09:41 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,206
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/KenGen-eyes-floating-solar-plants-in-three-hydropower/3815534-5596324-view-asAMP-icq3uhz/index.html?__twitter_impression=true


With kenya power not signing to take up additional power due to excess power in the country,not feasible to build the plants.


its been around for discussion but its a dead end

I fail to see the benefits of floating panels vis a vis free standing panels since availability of land and sunshine hours is not an issue in most of Kenya.

I like the idea if it is feasible.

1) Reduces evaporation of water from the dam. There's a YouTube video of canals covered with solar panels in India that also does so.

2) Use the same infrastructure to evacuate power vs building a new Transmission line from a remote place.

3) Solar power during the day. Hydro at night. This is important when there is a drought.


Noted but
1. To reduce evaporation, shade balls might be cheaper;
2. Infrastructure - the remote places are underserved by power infrascture plus all the main power evacuation lines pass through the remote places to reach urban centres.
3. Other methods arr more effective mitigate drought like reforestation and reclaiming water towers from encroachment.
4. Plan will interfere with local economic activities like fishing

1) The floating solar panels are not solely to reduce evaporation but offer a 2-in-1 benefit.
2) Is there a point to your statement?
*I said since the infrastructure is already in place, the electricity from the solar plants can hitch onto the existing T-lines.
3) Solar panels do not mitigate droughts. I said they act as an alternate to hydropower during droughts. The reforestation should happen regardless of floating panels.
4) The benefits of floating solar arrays > other activities. Also it is unlikely the panels will cover more than 50% of the dams' surface area.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Balaa
#552 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:37:49 AM
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Joined: 7/6/2018
Posts: 148
Location: Kinshasa
Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...atus/1285463558566940673
Ericsson
#553 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:57:24 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,861
Location: NAIROBI
[quote=Balaa]Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...tus/1285463558566940673[/quote]

She had another on NTV business redefined on June 30
Link for the interview
https://youtu.be/m8eZiY6hVSE
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
ARAPCHARLEE
#554 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:06:48 PM
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Joined: 4/28/2019
Posts: 79
Location: Talai
[quote=Ericsson][quote=Balaa]Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...tus/1285463558566940673[/quote]

She had another on NTV business redefined on June 30
Link for the interview
https://youtu.be/m8eZiY6hVSE[/quote]

https://twitter.com/rebecca_miano

I see we are all waiting kabisa.
heri
#555 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2020 12:16:49 PM
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Posts: 778
Location: nairobi
ARAPCHARLEE wrote:
[quote=Ericsson][quote=Balaa]Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...tus/1285463558566940673[/quote]

She had another on NTV business redefined on June 30
Link for the interview
https://youtu.be/m8eZiY6hVSE[/quote]

https://twitter.com/rebecca_miano

I see we are all waiting kabisa.


I did not get much from that interview

what are the chances of a dividend soon?
sparkly
#556 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2020 1:24:01 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,889
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
heri wrote:
ARAPCHARLEE wrote:
[quote=Ericsson][quote=Balaa]Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...tus/1285463558566940673[/quote]

She had another on NTV business redefined on June 30
Link for the interview
https://youtu.be/m8eZiY6hVSE[/quote]

https://twitter.com/rebecca_miano

I see we are all waiting kabisa.


I did not get much from that interview

what are the chances of a dividend soon?


Financial Year 2020 closed on 30 June. Maybe they will make a ividend declararation as they announce their 2020 results by end of October 2020.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#557 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2020 2:03:39 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,861
Location: NAIROBI
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
ARAPCHARLEE wrote:
[quote=Ericsson][quote=Balaa]Kengen CEO Miano will feature on upcoming session on Trading Bell discussing the impact Covid-19 has had on the business.

https://mobile.twitter.c...tus/1285463558566940673[/quote]

She had another on NTV business redefined on June 30
Link for the interview
https://youtu.be/m8eZiY6hVSE[/quote]

https://twitter.com/rebecca_miano

I see we are all waiting kabisa.


I did not get much from that interview

what are the chances of a dividend soon?


Financial Year 2020 closed on 30 June. Maybe they will make a ividend declararation as they announce their 2020 results by end of October 2020.


Auditor General has upto end of October to peruse 2018/19 and 2019/2020 annual accounts
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
FUNKY
#558 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2020 10:39:45 PM
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kawi254
#559 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:52:34 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-City-Hall-pen-deal-power-from-garbage/4003102-5614118-9yuuhuz/index.html


only the consultants conducting feasibility studies on the viability of the many 'fantasy' projects are making money. The dams are still full & geothermal power is being curtailed...if only KenGen can just focus and generate ROI for the shareholder..Ooops, the main shareholder doesn't care for a return on investment.
murchr
#560 Posted : Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:00:36 AM
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kawi254 wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-City-Hall-pen-deal-power-from-garbage/4003102-5614118-9yuuhuz/index.html


only the consultants conducting feasibility studies on the viability of the many 'fantasy' projects are making money. The dams are still full & geothermal power is being curtailed...if only KenGen can just focus and generate ROI for the shareholder..Ooops, the main shareholder doesn't care for a return on investment.


Sad, but thinking of future, this may not be bad it's currently happening in ET
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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