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The truth about 1/8 plots
hardwood
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 1:33:01 PM
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Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.





Ecclesiastes 9:7 So go ahead. Eat your food with joy, and drink your wine with a happy heart, for God approves of this.
Chaka
#2 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 6:00:04 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
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That kaploti comes in handy for putting up a dwelling that is different from that belonging to neighbours,a septic pit,planting some trees,rearing some chickens,a dairy cow,planting sukuma and other vegetables etc...
hardwood wrote:
Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.

MugundaMan
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 6:16:14 PM
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Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
hardwood wrote:
Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.








Very nice pic! I am partial to bougainvillea overflowing a stone wall nyweeee
Who is the wise man or woman?
The one who is self sufficient and owns their piece of the earth.
Co-owning in cramped apartments hata kama ni Riverside or Lavington is not the same thing. You are tied to your neighbour ferras for life!
Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four apartments that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Pretty soon security company etc are complaining bills are overdue. Then the NWSC guys come and block your sewer line saying there are debts years old that have not been collectively paid. Then when you try to sell the other owners refuse to consent until all outstanding disputes are resolves (which means never). Uko taabani at this point baba.
Compare with ordinary Joe or Jill with his or her tu 1/8th
1. It is affordable
2. They are 100% in control of their destiny
3. Good fences, preferably electrified above the wall make for very good neighbours
4. It is most likely freehold and so is easy as pie to buy and sell
5. Sense of freedom and pride in ownership. Nothing beats coming home to your cozy home humo humo ndani..and you owe nobody even a single ndururu on it
6. You can get creative. Build a crazy huge underground tank for 100,000 rainwater litres, or an armed bunker in case things go south in terms of civil strife
7. A proper 1/8th is quite huge for enough greeneries to be planted
8. Resale value is very high because these type of properties on these plotis are in high demand compared to a 30 room mansion on 5 acres on which 99% of the market is priced out
9. Most people with huge plotis (1 acres+) do not even know what do with them. This is why we always hear people asking for ideas on how to do telephone farming on such plots year in year out. Too much land and too little time/knowledge on how to optimize that land.

Ni hayo maoni yangu tu


"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." - Psalm 14:1
Dustbowl County is the Future of Kenya.
**1700 posts = Adios (for real this time!)**
alma1
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 7:06:36 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,401
Location: hapo
Mr. Mugundaman

I am in team mugundaman shout now tangatanga...

but I just love your enthusiasm about real estate.

I promise you...

When I buy a property, I shall without a doubt, consult you first.

You are a fantastic man. Wrong 90% of the time, but you are fantastic!!!!
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
dunkang
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 7:08:38 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/2/2011
Posts: 4,782
Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
An Eighth is a very adequate space for 99.5% of Kenyans for housing. Even if its tens of miles away, very interesting projects can be done on them.

In one 40X80 (less than an eight BTW), i have;

i. a 22,000 liters water tank (Masonry and Polyethene Lined)
ii. A wooden frame Greenhouse (with a roof FYI)
iii. A 10 Pigs sty
iv. A 15X10 raised Farmhand house with the "basement/crawl space" as the store

FYI, i harvest rain water from all the roofs and have a 40ft hand dug well.

If you have an idle eighth somewhere you don't plan to build a house in the near future, do some agricultural thing with it. e.g. Fish Tanks, Pig Sties, Zero graze beef cattles/goats/sheeps, greenhouse, mushrooms or even insurance salvage cars storage yard and sell spares.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

winmak
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 7:20:54 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 412
Location: Nakuru
alma1 wrote:
Mr. Mugundaman

I am in team mugundaman shout now tangatanga...

but I just love your enthusiasm about real estate.

I promise you...

When I buy a property, I shall without a doubt, consult you first.

You are a fantastic man. Wrong 90% of the time, but you are fantastic!!!!


Ouch!!!
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
MugundaMan
#7 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 7:27:55 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
dunkang wrote:
An Eighth is a very adequate space for 99.5% of Kenyans for housing. Even if its tens of miles away, very interesting projects can be done on them.

In one 40X80 (less than an eight BTW), i have;

i. a 22,000 liters water tank (Masonry and Polyethene Lined)
ii. A wooden frame Greenhouse (with a roof FYI)
iii. A 10 Pigs sty
iv. A 15X10 raised Farmhand house with the "basement/crawl space" as the store

FYI, i harvest rain water from all the roofs and have a 40ft hand dug well.

If you have an idle eighth somewhere you don't plan to build a house in the near future, do some agricultural thing with it. e.g. Fish Tanks, Pig Sties, Zero graze beef cattles/goats/sheeps, greenhouse, mushrooms or even insurance salvage cars storage yard and sell spares.


Applause
"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." - Psalm 14:1
Dustbowl County is the Future of Kenya.
**1700 posts = Adios (for real this time!)**
MugundaMan
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 7:29:30 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
alma1 wrote:
Mr. Mugundaman

I am in team mugundaman shout now tangatanga...

but I just love your enthusiasm about real estate.

I promise you...

When I buy a property, I shall without a doubt, consult you first.

You are a fantastic man. Wrong 90% of the time, but you are fantastic!!!!


Angusha evidence wacha polojo otherwise we will cast you in the same lot as empty talkers like Double A and Sparkles smile
"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." - Psalm 14:1
Dustbowl County is the Future of Kenya.
**1700 posts = Adios (for real this time!)**
Chaka
#9 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2019 10:45:23 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,078
@dunkang,how do you deal with sewage?
dunkang
#10 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2019 7:10:55 AM
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Posts: 4,782
Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
Chaka wrote:
@dunkang,how do you deal with sewage?

- For domestic human waste, solid waste is minimal for 1 person, and sewage is a traditional pit latrine.
- For Agricultural waste, composting.
- No waste comes from the greenhouse.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

sparkly
#11 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2019 10:19:04 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 6,954
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
hardwood wrote:
Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.







People in those estates enjoy the same or better floor space because their houses are maisonettes, utilizing the vertical space as well.

Better concept is to buy a home without buying land ie Apartment.
Life is short. Live passionately.
madhaquer
#12 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2019 4:49:37 PM
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Joined: 11/10/2010
Posts: 218
Location: Nairobi
At the end of the day, buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house.
Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements.
MugundaMan
#13 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2019 5:20:59 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
madhaquer wrote:
At the end of the day, buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house.
Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements.


This is a no-brainer to the wise, papa. Only stubborn, delusional or naive pipo cannot see the sublime wisdom of this. Building a house at cost rather than paying market rates. This is why DC is the future because it is ground zero of this beautiful activity as HassConsult reports have shown.
"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." - Psalm 14:1
Dustbowl County is the Future of Kenya.
**1700 posts = Adios (for real this time!)**
xtina
#14 Posted : Saturday, April 06, 2019 10:19:01 AM
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Joined: 6/26/2008
Posts: 254
alma1 wrote:
Mr. Mugundaman

I am in team mugundaman shout now tangatanga...

but I just love your enthusiasm about real estate.

I promise you...

When I buy a property, I shall without a doubt, consult you first.

You are a fantastic man. Wrong 90% of the time, but you are fantastic!!!!



Laughing out loudly
MugundaMan
#15 Posted : Saturday, April 06, 2019 10:56:27 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
xtina wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mr. Mugundaman

I am in team mugundaman shout now tangatanga...

but I just love your enthusiasm about real estate.

I promise you...

When I buy a property, I shall without a doubt, consult you first.

You are a fantastic man. Wrong 90% of the time, but you are fantastic!!!!



Laughing out loudly


Alma is just a talker. He has not adduced even a scintilla of evidence to show that I am "wrong 90% of the time" I hope he is not your hero and idol hapa Wazoo smile
"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." - Psalm 14:1
Dustbowl County is the Future of Kenya.
**1700 posts = Adios (for real this time!)**
dunkang
#16 Posted : Saturday, April 06, 2019 11:12:05 AM
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Joined: 6/2/2011
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Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
sparkly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.







People in those estates enjoy the same or better floor space because their houses are maisonettes, utilizing the vertical space as well.

Better concept is to buy a home without buying land ie Apartment.

Ati what????

So you will be owning something floating in the air? Whenever you buy an apartment, cost of land is already factored in, and exagerrated
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

sparkly
#17 Posted : Saturday, April 06, 2019 11:34:21 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 6,954
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
dunkang wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Do you know that all the planned old middle income estates like buru buru, south C, mugoya, langata, onyonka, uhuru gardens, ngeno etc have houses that are built on 20x70, 30x60 or 30x70 plots? (you can confirm measurements on google earth)

Therefore anyone buying a "huge" 40x80 or 50x100 plot in the city and surroundings to build a home should be respected, not being mocked for buying tuplotis.







People in those estates enjoy the same or better floor space because their houses are maisonettes, utilizing the vertical space as well.

Better concept is to buy a home without buying land ie Apartment.

Ati what????

So you will be owning something floating in the air? Whenever you buy an apartment, cost of land is already factored in, and exagerrated


Exactly, if you are buying an apartment or a floor of office space, there is no transaction for land. Land is communally owned by all.
Life is short. Live passionately.
NewMoney
#18 Posted : Saturday, April 06, 2019 11:21:09 PM
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Joined: 3/1/2019
Posts: 50
Location: Nairobi
MugundaMan wrote:
madhaquer wrote:
At the end of the day, buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house.
Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements.


This is a no-brainer to the wise, papa. Only stubborn, delusional or naive pipo cannot see the sublime wisdom of this. Building a house at cost rather than paying market rates. This is why DC is the future because it is ground zero of this beautiful activity as HassConsult reports have shown.



I would never undertake a project to build my own home for the same reason I would never want to build my own furniture, car, e.t.c. I can most definitely do it but at what cost?? The cost will be burnout, time wasted, and a substandard final product. It is much more profitable to get ready-made cars and stuff while I continue making more dollars at what I do best.

I would `Build my own house` only if I don't have other serious things to do and are okay with the substandard quality I will get. Otherwise, there is a reason people need to go to school and get licensed to do these things. And that easily explains why the majority of DC and ushago "maisonettes" and "bungalows" are of poor quality and lacking proper amenities, even though the owners are so blinded by confirmation bias, they could never see it even under the bright light of noon sun.

Price is a very relative thing, and money is an illusion. As long as you pay what feels like less than the value you will derive from the house, you are good. At the end of the day, the most valuable thing in this life is TIME, time is measured and limited, everything else is not

Don't forget that most houses for sale are also very poorly done, so you will want to get one done by real professionals not wannabes
sparkly
#19 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 12:11:05 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
NewMoney wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
madhaquer wrote:
At the end of the day, buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house.
Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements.


This is a no-brainer to the wise, papa. Only stubborn, delusional or naive pipo cannot see the sublime wisdom of this. Building a house at cost rather than paying market rates. This is why DC is the future because it is ground zero of this beautiful activity as HassConsult reports have shown.



I would never undertake a project to build my own home for the same reason I would never want to build my own furniture, car, e.t.c. I can most definitely do it but at what cost?? The cost will be burnout, time wasted, and a substandard final product. It is much more profitable to get ready-made cars and stuff while I continue making more dollars at what I do best.

I would `Build my own house` only if I don't have other serious things to do and are okay with the substandard quality I will get. Otherwise, there is a reason people need to go to school and get licensed to do these things. And that easily explains why the majority of DC and ushago "maisonettes" and "bungalows" are of poor quality and lacking proper amenities, even though the owners are so blinded by confirmation bias, they could never see it even under the bright light of noon sun.

Price is a very relative thing, and money is an illusion. As long as you pay what feels like less than the value you will derive from the house, you are good. At the end of the day, the most valuable thing in this life is TIME, time is measured and limited, everything else is not

Don't forget that most houses for sale are also very poorly done, so you will want to get one done by real professionals not wannabes


My friend you are going to get insults for this post. How dare you? We the people of DC do not need architects, Quantity Surveyors, contractors and Engineers. We have been bulding houses since time immemorial. In fact bulding housing has always been the work of our womenfolk.
Life is short. Live passionately.
MugundaMan
#20 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 12:59:15 AM
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Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 1,700
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
NewMoney wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
madhaquer wrote:
At the end of the day, buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house.
Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements.


This is a no-brainer to the wise, papa. Only stubborn, delusional or naive pipo cannot see the sublime wisdom of this. Building a house at cost rather than paying market rates. This is why DC is the future because it is ground zero of this beautiful activity as HassConsult reports have shown.



I would never undertake a project to build my own home for the same reason I would never want to build my own furniture, car, e.t.c. I can most definitely do it but at what cost?? The cost will be burnout, time wasted, and a substandard final product. It is much more profitable to get ready-made cars and stuff while I continue making more dollars at what I do best.

I would `Build my own house` only if I don't have other serious things to do and are okay with the substandard quality I will get. Otherwise, there is a reason people need to go to school and get licensed to do these things. And that easily explains why the majority of DC and ushago "maisonettes" and "bungalows" are of poor quality and lacking proper amenities, even though the owners are so blinded by confirmation bias, they could never see it even under the bright light of noon sun.

Price is a very relative thing, and money is an illusion. As long as you pay what feels like less than the value you will derive from the house, you are good. At the end of the day, the most valuable thing in this life is TIME, time is measured and limited, everything else is not

Don't forget that most houses for sale are also very poorly done
, so you will want to get one done by real professionals not wannabes



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

If your design and execution skills are sub par, please do no paint the rest of us with the same broad brush Laughing out loudly .
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