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KQ up,up & away
VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 7:25:00 AM
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I just saw a trade at 27.75 for KQ. It seems that things might be looking up again. I am sure KQ will benefit from some hedge gains if the crude oil prices remain at the 80-ish level.

I plan to fly on KQ soon but has anybody been on KQ recently?

How are the passenger loads (as in how full are the flights)?

Please tell us which flight & when.

Thank you!

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ecstacy
#2 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 7:38:00 AM
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some people will keep talking it down,it will keep rising. still has quite some mileage left...
Pierce
#3 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 7:48:00 AM
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Read my post under:

200K to invest,eat or give-away
mlefu
#4 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 7:54:00 AM
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KQ
demand:175,900
supply:34,600

best bid:27.00
best ask:27.75







prev close:26.00
last price:27.75
1.75

793,875




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VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 8:05:00 AM
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50 by 30 March 2010? @pierce - Isnt that ambitious?

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mwafrikah
#6 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 11:05:00 AM
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flied in the recent past on their west african routes and their flights are fully booked same as the southern african routes (especially during the weekends). with world cup coming next year KQ is expected to have record bookings and the turn around will be in the coming in a year's time.

my two dinars

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VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 12:10:00 PM
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Closed at 27.75 today. Wow... it was 20 just 2 weeks ago... kwani what has happened in these 2 weeks?

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cnn
#8 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 12:45:00 PM
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@vvs
that was the day high,the close was 27,still up.KQ,SAFCOM,SASINI,CENTUM look headed up on demand/supply.The days outsize were Kenol and Equity both trading shares worth more than 0.3billion.

see it through my lens?
mdosi
#9 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 12:47:00 PM
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I've been trying to buy into this counter but the inefficient CFCStanbic financial services have let me down. They are now taking more than a week to upload credit to my account and by then,the share price has jumped a few shillings up. I added more credit on sat(7th Nov) and by today(13th Nov) 3pm,they haven't uploaded the credit to my account yet. They used to be so efficient before merging with Stanbic and it's evident who is the inefficient party here. Anyone experiencing the same?

Feel the fear but do it anyway.
It's amazing what you can achieve when you get rid of fear.
Much Know
#10 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 12:49:00 PM
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replaced a 767-300ER with a new one...nice...they need more also i guess

Niône mwisho ya mwezi pliz!
A New Kenya
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 10:39:00 PM
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@cnn - The closing price was 27.75 but the VWAP was 27... the way I undertstand it...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 10:45:00 PM
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KQ has been entering into wet leases to manage passenger loads & aircraft shortages. I do not have full details but that means they are filling up the planes. That said... it's better to have your own plane if you need it longer-term.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Kirethi
#13 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:51:00 PM
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My prediction is that the stock will rise to kshs 50

Watu wachangamuke
itz
#14 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:33:00 AM
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you definately would be a bagholder for life if u bought KQ at 50.you are all ignoring all the news on this company's financials and oil hedges.KQ is only a buy under 19bucks and for a trade(not investment).
mturi
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:45:00 PM
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KQ is likely to rise as it is undervalued at its current price but I don’t think it can go beyond 40 bob in next 1 year or so. The world economy is still struggling and consolidations are starting to be seen in the airline industry (e.g. BA - Iberia) and these will impact on competitiveness especially in regions covered by KLM-KQ which are also covered by BA. Also the oil prices remain high and KQ's hedge appear too ineffective.
VituVingiSana
#16 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10:00 AM
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@mturi - My comments below are about profits NOT share price...
* World economy is improving coz of 'looser' credit thus folks can borrow again. Just not as much. KQ should benefit since Africa(ns) are not that leveraged though lower remittances will hurt.
** Consolidation was overdue. What happened was that anti-trust regulations forced the different airlines to stay separate. BA & Iberia have had talks in the past but now the reasons are more compelling. The 'anti-trust' cops have little choice coz their intransigence might kill BA or Iberia (or make them much smaller). Politically that does not fly with UK or Spain.
*** Oil prices are 'high' but affordable... some airlines will close up shop. That leaves fewer airlines. Fewer passengers. Maybe better margins. KQ has newer planes thus lower direct operating/fuel costs per passenger.
**** Hedging did not work in 2008. Unless you know the details of KQ's FORWARD hedges... how do you know they are ineffective? [Ans: You do not. If you know where oil prices will be... then you can make millions/billions...]

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Pierce
#17 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2009 6:35:00 AM
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Angalia leo
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2009 7:33:00 AM
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Well... I do not know about 50/- but KQ is on its way to 30/-. I wish we had more information but KQ does not produce quarterly results. Oil at $76 definitely adds to more 'profits' (or lower cash losses from hedges)...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2009 8:31:00 AM
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Watching Live Feed... and someone just bought 72,000 shares at 28... and cleaned out the supply... It might it 30/- this week since the demand seems strong...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Pierce
#20 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2009 8:50:00 AM
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Is this movement just out of sheer speculation??
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