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maka
#6841 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:05:52 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 9,226
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn


possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#6842 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:22:33 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 410
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.
maka
#6843 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:13:00 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 9,226
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.


https://www.bloomberg.co...t-airlines-in-the-world

http://www.flightstats.c...nce-service-awards-data/
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#6844 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:20:31 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 410
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.


https://www.bloomberg.co...t-airlines-in-the-world

http://www.flightstats.c...ce-service-awards-data/[/quote]

Overall OTP, then this is bad for KQ. More needs to be done but unfortunately it is untill the next CEO takes over. The COO from KLM is of no help as far as I am concerned.
muandiwambeu
#6845 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:51:06 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 453
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.


https://www.bloomberg.co...t-airlines-in-the-world

http://www.flightstats.c...ce-service-awards-data/[/quote]

Overall OTP, then this is bad for KQ. More needs to be done but unfortunately it is untill the next CEO takes over. The COO from KLM is of no help as far as I am concerned.

Phew.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#6846 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:53:39 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.


https://www.bloomberg.co...t-airlines-in-the-world

http://www.flightstats.c...ce-service-awards-data/[/quote]

Overall OTP, then this is bad for KQ. More needs to be done but unfortunately it is untill the next CEO takes over. The COO from KLM is of no help as far as I am concerned.

Phew.

There were incessant go slows in 2016 hence the bleak outcome..

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

obiero
#6847 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:07:13 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
KQ sacks more staff in second retrenchment phase http://www.businessdaily...12090-yvks4tz/index.html

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

muandiwambeu
#6848 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:17:25 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 453
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]In the meantime, my local kiosk, painted red, quietly makes more profit in one day than KQ has made in the past 5 years.

LOL.. Trouble only lasts for a while. The darkest hour is always before dawn




@maka, Is this for LHR only.They normally rank them.

KQ is performing very poorly. I cannot wait to hear who will be the next CEO. I hope the CEO will be on board by Apr-17.This is bad news for KQ. If this is LHR results then change of schedule done in 2016 is to blame for this mess.

Can you please confirm if these results pertains to LHR only.


https://www.bloomberg.co...t-airlines-in-the-world

http://www.flightstats.c...ce-service-awards-data/[/quote]

Overall OTP, then this is bad for KQ. More needs to be done but unfortunately it is untill the next CEO takes over. The COO from KLM is of no help as far as I am concerned.

Phew.

There were incessant go slows in 2016 hence the bleak outcome..

ppt very steady.
But am not buying sordid news anymore. Sacking more employees, I thought only ngunzio and croonies where remaining ticking on this dead cat skin. Waaahaaaa. More can of worms opening.Sad Sad Sad Sad
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#6849 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:16:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

muandiwambeu
#6850 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:39:08 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 453
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..

Liar Liar Liar Liar
But there are no more planes to lease or idle London slots to sell next year to pampers results like the ones you just pulled out @obiero.
Kujitembeza ndiyo mingi hapa
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
ArrestedDev
#6851 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:14:55 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 410
Location: Nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..

Liar Liar Liar Liar
But there are no more planes to lease or idle London slots to sell next year to pampers results like the ones you just pulled out @obiero.
Kujitembeza ndiyo mingi hapa


This second phase of retrenchment may lead to another industrial action and hence further losses for FY 16/17.This CEO and his Mckinsey guys should not have been allowed to handle any other sensitive thing in KQ.

Let's watch how it is going to play out. He is promising to handle it carefully but as usual they will screw it up.
HaMaina
#6852 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:23:26 AM
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Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 338
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
ArrestedDev
#6853 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:53:59 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 410
Location: Nairobi
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.
VituVingiSana
#6854 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:54:11 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 12,788
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..

KK has KQ covered. KK "forecasts" 3bn in PAT for FY 2016 [excluding KPRL provisions]. We all have to do our part. KK will do its part.

*Please fill up at KK. KQ and cronies to pay cash.*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6855 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:32:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.

LOL.. We await the official results

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

muandiwambeu
#6856 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:42:27 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 453
ArrestedDev wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.

@arested pliiz do not say it again. We have sensitive hearts and news of heart attacks are on rise. Not all news are good to buy, neither for your health.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#6857 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:52:44 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 12,788
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.

Truth!
A new broom sweeps clean. A new (foreign) CEO who has no ties to the crooked reign of Naikuni et al would not hesitate to call a spade a spade. When Ohana effectively took over from Segman, bad debts were written off. It served KK well to start from scratch.

I hope GoK doesn't pump more money into KQ. We have a large deficit to fill.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6858 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:12:27 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.

Truth!
A new broom sweeps clean. A new (foreign) CEO who has no ties to the crooked reign of Naikuni et al would not hesitate to call a spade a spade. When Ohana effectively took over from Segman, bad debts were written off. It served KK well to start from scratch.

I hope GoK doesn't pump more money into KQ. We have a large deficit to fill.

Pesa lazima itoke.. What do you think Michael Joseph was doing at state house last week

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

muandiwambeu
#6859 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:24:24 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 453
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ staff costs expected to dip by KES 3B
in the coming year
. Exactly the loss before tax in the below projection.. KQ shall finally return to profit..


How many wild dances and beheaded chicken were used by the mganga to give these projections? They are impressive though.


Exactly. This is the work of a witch doctor. Results like these will only be seen after two years when the new CEO with a vast aviation experience joins.

Redundancy costs will have a very serious impact on the P&L. Please expect a 10billion plus loss to be reported come July 17.

After Ngunze exit, more hidden blunders will be unearthed.

Truth!
A new broom sweeps clean. A new (foreign) CEO who has no ties to the crooked reign of Naikuni et al would not hesitate to call a spade a spade. When Ohana effectively took over from Segman, bad debts were written off. It served KK well to start from scratch.

I hope GoK doesn't pump more money into KQ. We have a large deficit to fill.

Pesa lazima itoke.. What do you think Michael Joseph was doing at state house last week

To beseach for earlier exit of rotten baggage inside there as they stink to much to bear. Pesa ni baadaye ndugu na dada.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#6860 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:53:10 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 5,071
Location: nairobi
KQ likely to be among the best performing stock this year, just like last year

COOP 12,000; HF 5,300; KQ 39,500

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