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Ericsson
#12941 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:01:40 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 7,439
Location: NAIROBI
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake


Why are they recommending JKIA to be split from KAA.JKIA should remain part of KAA
sparkly
#12942 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:47:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,292
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake


Why are they recommending JKIA to be split from KAA.JKIA should remain part of KAA


Would MPs have recommended buyout if Wenyenchi banks were not involved?

Will the MPs recommend buyout for Uchumi and Mumias shareholders?
Life is short. Live passionately.
ArrestedDev
#12943 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:25:39 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 824
Location: Nairobi
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.
VituVingiSana
#12944 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2019 5:09:25 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 16,446
Location: Nairobi
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#12945 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:42:33 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,497
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
@Obiero
Impunity
#12946 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:45:51 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,150
Location: Masada
the deal wrote:
@Obiero


What is?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#12947 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 6:56:14 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
maka
#12948 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:06:55 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,202
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Ummh for example which routes?
possunt quia posse videntur
nairobby
#12949 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:08:11 AM
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Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 154
Location: kenya
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.


It's a good plane. I just don't think there is any route KQ can operate that plane efficiently in. Maybe after a few years after the airline has expanded enough.

At a time when KQ badly needs capacity Mikosz chose to extend the sub-lease to TK. That tells you everything. KQ cannot fill a 400 seat plane. Not now, maybe in the next 5 years they can. We shall see.

Impunity
#12950 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:33:54 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,150
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Your reasoning is worse than Ngunze's.
Shame on you
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

VituVingiSana
#12951 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:35:38 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 16,446
Location: Nairobi
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ could be the first airline with a 777 combi. Or 3!

"When ordering the new 747s, KLM knew that they would be unable to completely fill the aircraft on some of their routes. This made the Combi aircraft very attractive for the carrier, as it allowed them to earn cargo revenue to make up for the lack of passenger revenue." https://airlinegeeks.com...g-klms-unique-747-combi/
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nairobby
#12952 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:45:50 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 154
Location: kenya
VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.
maka
#12953 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:54:43 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,202
Location: Nairobi
nairobby wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.


True cargo would make the company quite a bit of cash... It is a neglected divison at the airline...

possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#12954 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:52:56 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
nairobby wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.


True cargo would make the company quite a bit of cash... It is a neglected divison at the airline...


Exporters to USA are literally begging for additional capacity
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
obiero
#12955 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:54:58 AM
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Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Your reasoning is worse than Ngunze's.
Shame on you

Hahaha.. Wewe na mama yako mnafanana tu
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
obiero
#12956 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:56:52 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Ummh for example which routes?

Joburg, Mumbai and Dubai.. Just wing it!
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
obiero
#12957 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:48:15 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
Ericsson
#12958 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:00:07 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 7,439
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well


Is the right issue a must?
VituVingiSana
#12959 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:04:36 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 16,446
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well
Let GoK buy out KQLC first at the conversion price. The issues with the Minorities can be discussed later. Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#12960 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:12:48 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,289
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well
Let GoK buy out KQLC first at the conversion price. The issues with the Minorities can be discussed later. Laughing out loudly

Wewe mzee nitakutwanga mangumi
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100
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