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moi destroyed a whole decade generation
newfarer
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:32:47 PM
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Location: Uganda
I'm totally bitter at the generation that completed KCSE between 1992 and 2001.Through mois policy of national plunder ,political patronage, tribalism , the country went to the dogs.Dilapidated roads,negative economic growth, rampant unemployment ensured that those who left school remained hopeless in their lives.Even teachers and doctors were not guaranteed employment.



when I go to upcountry , I get very disapointed and get very moved when I see my peers , who were very bright in school just roaming around in the village after going into dispair and hopelessness and joining drug and alcohol abuse to find some solace due to inability to get gainful employment due to a failed economy.

It would only be fair If Moi was made to pay for this wastage by being made to return illegally acquired wealth and money stashed in foreign accounts.
Moi is a national shame and he should just retire in shame and watch how a country should be run as he waits to answer his shameful acts to his maker.Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

This can be used to uplift the lives of the current generation since a majority of 1992-2001 KCSE graduands are just at a point of no return


Those old enough can attest to this.
punda amecheka
Sober
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:50:43 PM
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Moi is to seek the audience of president kibaki over the mau. whenis this meeting?
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Impunity
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:54:17 PM
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I sat my KCSE in this period,my goodness!
Pray Pray Pray Pray
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

kadonye
#4 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27:45 AM
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@newfarer, why 1992-2001?I think most of us who sat KCSE in the dying yrs of Moi administration have had it easier joining employment or biz world.
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
mukiha
#5 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 9:33:02 AM
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By 1992, Moi had been in power for 14 years!

Enough time to bring the whole nation to its knees....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
newfarer
#6 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 10:04:40 AM
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mukiha wrote:
By 1992, Moi had been in power for 14 years!

Enough time to bring the whole nation to its knees....


The last days are the worst days

The first 10 years of Moi werent as bad economically , International support was still present.Civil servants were being employed.Teachers and Doctors were guaranteed employment immediately after training.

Then came the goldenberg scandal in 1992 /1993.Everything went haywire.The price of 2kg maize meal shot from Ksh 10 to 25 ,Bread from 5 to 17 within a year not because of draught but because of economic mismanagement( wajukuu wangu wacheni niwaambie i might have to add this for those who were too young to comprehend this) )

Moi's crownies became bolder and went on stealing rampage within the remaining 10 years.In 2002 the economy was a retard
punda amecheka
aemathenge
#7 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 11:42:19 AM
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@Newfarer, how many jobs have you created this financial year?
newfarer
#8 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:01:56 PM
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Aemathenge , I have not directly created employment, but I am proud to tell you that on 20 Oct 2010 , my phone had a problem , I went to a fundi ( a youngman hitherto unkown to me). I observed that many customers were coming to his kiosk asking batteries , airtime and other phone accessories which he did not have.

I asked him if he knew of the Youth fund. He grumbled abit and said it was for the rich.
I promised to get him more information on the internet on the fund , which I did.

I told him to try and he agreed and now he is upbeat and hopeful to succeed in getting 50000/= for his business.

He is working on a business plan .

Believe me this is not a lie or a feel good story .

Only lack of information is hampering the youth now.During Mois time , there was nothing ,nothing kabisa unless you bribe your way into police , army and civil service.
Now the youth fund , and equity loans are available .

punda amecheka
aemathenge
#9 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:12:34 PM
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@Newfarer, hear, hear.

You have made my morning.

Well done, Sir. I shall expect updates.
mukiha
#10 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:47:00 PM
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newfarer wrote:
mukiha wrote:
By 1992, Moi had been in power for 14 years!

Enough time to bring the whole nation to its knees....


The last days are the worst days

The first 10 years of Moi werent as bad economically , International support was still present.Civil servants were being employed.Teachers and Doctors were guaranteed employment immediately after training.

Then came the goldenberg scandal in 1992 /1993.Everything went haywire.The price of 2kg maize meal shot from Ksh 10 to 25 ,Bread from 5 to 17 within a year not because of draught but because of economic mismanagement( wajukuu wangu wacheni niwaambie i might have to add this for those who were too young to comprehend this) )

Moi's crownies became bolder and went on stealing rampage within the remaining 10 years.In 2002 the economy was a retard

No!

If you did your KCSE in 1992; then you were not mature enough to feel the systematic economic break-down of the Moism from a 1978 to 1991.

That was the time that Moi killed the following:
KPCU
KTDA (A=authority; not the present Agency!)
KFA (he renamed it KGGCU at one time)
KCC
Pyrethrum Board
Cotton Board
KNTC (can you remember this one?)
KMC
Kenya Railways
Kenya Airways (which was later revived in a deal with BA --- KLM came in later to buy a stake)
KCB
NBK
etc

It was also the time that he killed the social support system - health, education etc.

By 1992, tulikuwa tumezoea kukaa ngumu. Those taking KCSE at that time were simply maturing and realising that the country has been take to the dogs.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Wendz
#11 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:52:38 PM
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@mukiha...

May be this lot is the group that bore the heat of the impact of those organisations failures... For example, if their parents lost their jobs during the periods 1985 - 1991, then you bet they couldnt access proper education, even if it was tertiary colleges...

With the death of all those companies, there was no money to sustain jua kali enterprises and start ups....

Even though they couldnt understand, i think the impact was alot..... and waiting from 1992 - 2003 when things started turning upwards, you find many had wasted many years during that period....

i think i have observed the same in my area too.... but all the same, there are those who got lucky too.
Mpenzi
#12 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 1:15:10 PM
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Every cloud has a silver lining - in a strange twist of fate, the desperation caused by Moi's terrible rule pushed so many young people abroad and those are now remitting the ever-increasing remittances from abroad.

The same push factor was in play in Uganda during Amin's rule and it is currently in play in Mugabe's Zim.
mukiha
#13 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 1:21:48 PM
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@Mpenzi; and the academic economists will forever explore the question of whether these people would be producing more in Kenya today [than they remit from abroad] had Moi not forced them to leave the country....imagine if the organisations I listed above had not been looted...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
vinii
#14 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 1:44:17 PM
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I look at Uganda and see another Moi in Museveni. The dude has decided to rule forever - and to spice things up he is even rapping ! ABK !!
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
Njung'e
#15 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 2:42:33 PM
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@Mukiha,
How could you forget the ever so efficient Kenya School Equipment Scheme??....In our days,text books and stationeries were so free....Moi screwed this scheme from behind and thus began the days of paying school fees in Primary schools....It was also during his rule that aid agencies run out of town due to mismanagement of funds...Remember SIDA?(Swedish International Development Agencies).This body alone supplied the then technical schools with equipment and expertise worth millions of shillings in the hope of making Kenya an industrial country.There were others such as DANIDA and KEFINCO.....In those days,AI services were prompt and at a very affordable fee...To have your cow "climbed" today,you need to break into a bank....lol
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Mpenzi
#16 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 4:47:34 PM
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mukiha wrote:
[quote=newfarer][quote=mukiha]



That was the time that Moi killed the following:
KPCU
KTDA (A=authority; not the present Agency!)
KFA (he renamed it KGGCU at one time)
KCC
Pyrethrum Board
Cotton Board
KNTC (can you remember this one?)
KMC
Kenya Railways
Kenya Airways (which was later revived in a deal with BA --- KLM came in later to buy a stake)
KCB
NBK
etc



more killings and/or looting.....

Kenya National Assurance Co (during the reign of Kosgey as the MD)
KPLC
KPTC
NSSF (Sololo Investments etc)
Kenya Seed
Agricultural Finance Corporation (AFC)
ADC


kadonye
#17 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 4:48:46 PM
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@Mpenzi, you've taken me back to the 90s...It was largely believed then that one could not make it unless they 'fly out'.We had harambee upon harambee for 'further studies'(wengine ilikuwa biashara)

The generation of guys born in the 70s and educated is totally missing out in some villages


Mpenzi wrote:
Every cloud has a silver lining - in a strange twist of fate, the desperation caused by Moi's terrible rule pushed so many young people abroad and those are now remitting the ever-increasing remittances from abroad.

What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
kadonye
#18 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 4:55:34 PM
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To think that we sang praises for this guy

Tawala Kenya tawala
Rais Moi
Unaongoza vyema

Fimbo ya Nyayo,yatuongoza kwenda wapi?
Fimbo ya Nyayo,yatuongoza kwenda mbele


On a trip to Nyeri, he'd stop at KU almost every girls school and a few boys schools.He'd meet students who'd line the highway singing praises to him.Then the sweet part...He'd give us cash ranging from 10k to 50k.Na tunapiga makofi kwa baba Moi

Trouble is,we never asked ourselves where the money came from!Hata sisi tulikuwa BK!Brick wall
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
Paul Kukubo
#19 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 5:15:44 PM
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mukiha wrote:
newfarer wrote:
mukiha wrote:
By 1992, Moi had been in power for 14 years!

Enough time to bring the whole nation to its knees....


The last days are the worst days

The first 10 years of Moi werent as bad economically , International support was still present.Civil servants were being employed.Teachers and Doctors were guaranteed employment immediately after training.

Then came the goldenberg scandal in 1992 /1993.Everything went haywire.The price of 2kg maize meal shot from Ksh 10 to 25 ,Bread from 5 to 17 within a year not because of draught but because of economic mismanagement( wajukuu wangu wacheni niwaambie i might have to add this for those who were too young to comprehend this) )

Moi's crownies became bolder and went on stealing rampage within the remaining 10 years.In 2002 the economy was a retard

No!

If you did your KCSE in 1992; then you were not mature enough to feel the systematic economic break-down of the Moism from a 1978 to 1991.

That was the time that Moi killed the following:
KPCU
KTDA (A=authority; not the present Agency!)
KFA (he renamed it KGGCU at one time)
KCC
Pyrethrum Board
Cotton Board
KNTC (can you remember this one?)
KMC
Kenya Railways
Kenya Airways (which was later revived in a deal with BA --- KLM came in later to buy a stake)
KCB
NBK
etc

It was also the time that he killed the social support system - health, education etc.

By 1992, tulikuwa tumezoea kukaa ngumu. Those taking KCSE at that time were simply maturing and realising that the country has been take to the dogs.



Raila would do worse than Moi. Am a prophet, of doom and hope.
Kaigangio
#20 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 5:31:13 PM
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@ mpenzi,

I thought sololo and jirongo are one and the same thing...sololo outlets ltd
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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